<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><span class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Gregory Maxwell via bitcoin-dev <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target="_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></span><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><span>On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev<br></span><br>
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> Miners who don't validate have a habit of bleeding money: that's the<br>
> system working as designed.<br>
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</span></span><span class="">The information I have currently is that the parties engaging in that<br>
activity found it to be tremendously profitable, even including losses<br>
from issues.</span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This got buried in another thread. Putting it out in case anyone has any insight. </div><div><br></div><div>Does anyone have any data on which of the above two viewpoints is actually correct? Measuring / publishing these effects will go a long way in either (a) establishing credibility of the 'system design' or (b) trigger a conversation on what needs fixing.</div><div><br></div><div>If there is no such known data, and someone new to Bitcoin would like to do that, where would be a good place to start, if it is at all possible.</div></div></div></div></div></div>