<div dir="ltr">Phillip, there's no speculating going on. These are published policies and official. Everyone in Bitcoin world other than the S2X team has decided the legacy chain will live, and that replay protection is appropriate.<div><br></div><div>Jared, I don't care to take what you, or Luke, or any Core dev said as gospel. I am presenting verifiable facts and imploring the S2X team to come to reality. </div><div><br></div><div>Otherwise you are choosing indefensible negligence and malfeasance.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:08 AM Daniel Vogel <<a href="mailto:vogel@bitso.com">vogel@bitso.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>We are not adding support for both chains because we are speculating. We are adding support because our customers are demanding it.</div><div id="m_6521467002641219525AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_6521467002641219525AppleMailSignature">Of note is that not a single one of our customers demanded support for the recent legacy Ethereum chain.</div><div id="m_6521467002641219525AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_6521467002641219525AppleMailSignature">But just as much as some people are speculating that there'll be two chains you are also speculating that there will only be one chain.</div><div id="m_6521467002641219525AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_6521467002641219525AppleMailSignature">What is happening is irresponsible.</div><div id="m_6521467002641219525AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_6521467002641219525AppleMailSignature">Daniel<br><br><table id="m_6521467002641219525sig" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="320" style="width:320px;padding:0px;margin:0px;font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:17px;color:rgb(92,75,81);border-collapse:collapse"><tbody><tr style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><td style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><table id="m_6521467002641219525sig1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="padding:0px;margin:0px;line-height:17px;border-collapse:collapse"><tbody><tr style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><td width="52" height="53" style="width:52px;height:53px;margin:0px;padding:0px"><a href="https://bitso.com/" style="border:none;text-decoration:none!important" target="_blank"><img src="http://cloudfront.giantuser.com/data/images/4ae191b55e616cc4360ce7a890bca68f/original.png" width="52" height="53" style="border:none;width:52px;height:53px;display:block"></a></td><td width="10" style="width:10px;min-width:10px;max-width:10px;margin:0px;padding:0px"> </td><td width="10" style="width:10px;min-width:10px;max-width:10px;margin:0px;padding:0px;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(224,224,224)"> </td><td style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><table id="m_6521467002641219525sig2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="padding:0px;margin:0px;line-height:17px;border-collapse:collapse"><tbody><tr style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><td style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif;white-space:nowrap"><strong><a href="mailto:vogel@bitso.com" style="border:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(165,200,143)" target="_blank">Daniel Vogel</a></strong> <span style="color:rgb(224,224,224)">•</span> <strong><a href="https://bitso.com/" style="border:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(92,75,81)" target="_blank">Bitso</a></strong></td></tr><tr style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><td style="margin:0px;padding:0px;white-space:nowrap"><a href="tel:+525563828572" style="border:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(92,75,81)" target="_blank">President</a></td></tr><tr style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><td style="margin:0px;padding:0px;white-space:nowrap"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/bitsoex" style="border:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(92,75,81)" target="_blank">Facebook</a> <span style="color:rgb(224,224,224)">•</span> <a href="https://twitter.com/bitsoex" style="border:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(92,75,81)" target="_blank">Twitter</a> <span style="color:rgb(224,224,224)">•</span> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pub/daniel-vogel/8/bb3/588" style="border:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(92,75,81)" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div><div dir="auto"><div><br>On Oct 24, 2017, at 6:01 AM, Phillip Katete via Bitcoin-segwit2x <<a href="mailto:bitcoin-segwit2x@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target="_blank">bitcoin-segwit2x@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">WRONG. The exchanges are speculating that there will be 2 coins, quite distinct from 2 chains let alone 2 viable chains, whereas it is the intent of the NYA WG (thus btc1 client) not to split the network.
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<p class="MsoNormal">In-fact the overwhelming majority of the community concede that the minority chain (should there be a viable one post Nov HF) MUST implement RP otherwise they will expose their users to the risk of losses and themselves to risks of recourse.</p>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Bitcoin-segwit2x] PROPOSAL: B0RG (Bitcoin zero replay guarantee) - Ensuring a smooth 2X upgrade without a chain split</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">All of the exchanges and the community have conceded that this fork will result in two coins. They all decided to name the new one B2X.
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<p>As far as I can see, only by hard forking btc1 once more. The B0RG proposal has the advantage of being just a soft fork.</p>
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