<div dir="ltr">That's my fault, I said "R-Value" instead of "Commit Revocation Hash".<div>I've not yet thought about how the idea of hash chain can be used for HTLC.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 1:27 AM, Mats Jerratsch <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mats@blockchain.com" target="_blank">mats@blockchain.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hah I see, I didn't knew you weren't talking about HTLCs.<br>
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But why would you use R values in the first place then? Maybe I'm a<br>
little bit confused about what exact use case we are talking here, mind<br>
elaborating? :)<br>
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Am 08/03/2016 um 16:14 schrieb Nicolas Dorier:<br>
> I don't understand your point, but that may come from me not having<br>
> deep enough knowledge about the latest great things happening on<br>
> Lightning.<br>
><br>
> I exposed the case of a simple bipayment channel, without HTLC in the<br>
> equation, where all payments are sequential.<br>
><br>
> You can't make commitment n+2 before accepting commitment n+1.<br>
><br>
> My mental model might be incomplete as I'm followed only remotely<br>
> the improvements of lightning until now.<br>
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> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:53 AM, Mats Jerratsch <<a href="mailto:mats@blockchain.com" target="_blank">mats@blockchain.com</a><br>
</span><span>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mats@blockchain.com" target="_blank">mats@blockchain.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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> I'm not saying they close the channel. Alice could want to receive more<br>
> money and accept other payments, but not a particular one. But by doing<br>
> so, she would automatically disclose R for any old payment.<br>
><br>
> Am 08/03/2016 um 15:51 schrieb Nicolas Dorier:<br>
> > I'm not sure what you mean Alice don't have to disclose R if she does<br>
> > not want to.<br>
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> --<br>
> Mats Jerratsch<br>
> Backend Engineer, Blockchain<br>
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Mats Jerratsch<br>
Backend Engineer, Blockchain<br>
e: <a href="mailto:mats@blockchain.com" target="_blank">mats@blockchain.com</a><br>
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