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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>I agree with Daniel comment on
foomatic-*<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>While “openprinting-cups-filters”
is descriptive; wouldn’t “op-cups-filters” be sufficient?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>For the “other name” discussion,
I am not sure they are really “common”; they are really just the
set supported by OpenPrinting. You say are “”””extra””””
or “”””extended””””. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Some other ideas<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>CEFS = CUPS Extended Filter Set<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>OCFS = OpenPrinting CUPS Filter Set <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>COFS= CUPS OpenPrinting Filter Set<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>
= Common OpenPrinting Filter Set<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>But I am ok with “op-cups-filters”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>For the discussion of “dropping
filters” –<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>1. Is the intent is stop
supporting? If so, then there should one filter set that contains all of “abandoned”
filters. At least someone would have access to the filter; even though reasonability
for ensuring the work with the latest CUPS is up to the person downloading this
set of filters and not any other entity.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>2. How many filters would suggest
dropping? If the number is small (< 10 say), then the burden to
continue to support them may be low; however, if the larger, can a list be
generated of the suggested filters to be dropped. The list is then distributed
on printing email lists, so that people can provide a feedback on the candidate
filters to be dropped. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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[mailto:printing-architecture-bounces@lists.linux-foundation.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Daniel Dressler<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, October 27, 2011
11:38 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Till Kamppeter<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Open Printing<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re:
[Printing-architecture] Moving CUPS filters to OpenPrinting</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hello<br>
<br>
I think we should keep foomatic-* as is, if only to avoid user confusion. <br>
<br>
Overall openprinting-cups-filters is a good name and can be extended to an
optional package easily, e.g. openprinting-cups-filters-extra, cannot really go
wrong with it.<br>
<br>
The only downsides I can think of is that it is verbose and just a bit, plain.<br>
<br>
There is another source of options, in line with CUPS, CPD, CMPD we could call
it CFS* ( Common Filter Set ) or CPF ( Common Printing Filters ) or CCUPSFS
(Common Common Unix Printing Spooler Filter Set).<br>
<br>
But perhaps my favourite: CUFS ( Common Unix Filter Set), it may not mention
the cups specific nature of the filters but what we lose in description we make
up for in branding, it is a pronounceable word!**<br>
<br>
Daniel<br>
<br>
*Already taken =\<br>
**In English at least.<br>
<br>
<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2011/10/27 Till Kamppeter <<a href="mailto:till.kamppeter@gmail.com">till.kamppeter@gmail.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hi,<br>
<br>
Mike Sweet intends to remove the filters which are not used by Mac OS X from
the CUPS upstream package:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.cups.org/str.php?L3930" target="_blank">http://www.cups.org/str.php?L3930</a><br>
<br>
We have agreed on this on the last OpenPrinting Summit and the filters will be
continued and hosted by OpenPrinting. In addition, the filters for the PDF
printing workflow will not be adopted by CUPS but joined with the CUPS filters
we overtake.<br>
<br>
All Linux distributions would have to include this new CUPS filters package
then to get CUPS continuing to work and have the same feature set as before.<br>
<br>
Due to the fact that this package will use the PDF workflow by default and that
all major desktop applications send their print jobs already in PDF, this will
complete the implementation of PDF as standard print job format. See also my
updated web page:<br>
<br>
<a
href="https://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/pdfasstandardprintjobformat"
target="_blank">https://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/pdfasstandardprintjobformat</a><br>
<br>
By this, we also do not need to get a copyright/license agreement between the
developers of the PDF filters and Apple.<br>
<br>
We can start hosting the CUPS filters as soon as our BZR repositories for
OpenPrinting will be back. In the CUPS project these filters are already
separated into their own branch, we only need to import them from their SVN
into our BZR.<br>
<br>
We also need a name for the package. Should we call it simply
"cups-filters"? Or "op-cups-filters"? Or do we rename
Foomatic to openprinting and have the packages<br>
<br>
- openprinting-db<br>
- openprinting-db-nonfree<br>
- openprinting-db-engine<br>
- openprinting-rip<br>
- openprinting-cups-filters<br>
<br>
Note that we keep foomatic-rip/openprinting-rip separate from the CUPS filters
as this filter is a universal filter which also works with many other printing
systems.<br>
<br>
Another decision to make is whether we really should maintain all the filters
which get over to us from CUPS or whether we should discontinue some. The
filter set will contain "imageto..." and "textto..."
filters which are not made use of by the usual desktop applications, they send
all PDF (and some send PostScript). Alternatively, these filters could be made
optional.<br>
<br>
Till<br>
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