[Accessibility-ia2] next changes to IAccessible2

Fri Jun 24 02:53:03 PDT 2011

Hi, Carolyn.

It's not a typo I believe. It's may be the same for Symphony, but these are
different things for Firefox because in Firefox document can contain nested
accessible objects implementing hypertext interface.

Alex.

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Carolyn MacLeod <
Carolyn_MacLeod at ca.ibm.com> wrote:

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> > You said you were looking at accessibleDocument.  Please send me a link
> to what you are looking at.  accessibleDocument is not part of IA2.
>
> Pete, the "next changes to IAccessible2" wiki has an "IAccessibleDocument"
> in it: *https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/IA2_1.3*<https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/IA2_1.3>
> Perhaps it's a typo, and it was meant to be "IAccessibleHyperlink2" or
> maybe "IAccessibleHypertext2" ?
>
> Carolyn
>
>
>
>  From:
> Pete Brunet <pete at a11ysoft.com>
> To:
> IA2 List <Accessibility-ia2 at lists.linux-foundation.org>
> Date: 22/06/2011 01:40 PM Subject: Re: [Accessibility-ia2] next changes to
> IAccessible2 Sent by: accessibility-ia2-bounces at lists.linuxfoundation.org
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> On 6/22/2011 12:10 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote:
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> Rich Schwerdtfeger
> CTO Accessibility Software Group
> *
> **accessibility-ia2-bounces at lists.linuxfoundation.org*<accessibility-ia2-bounces at lists.linuxfoundation.org>wrote on 06/22/2011 11:16:41 AM:
>
> > From: Pete Brunet *<pete at a11ysoft.com>* <pete at a11ysoft.com>
> > To: IA2 List *<Accessibility-ia2 at lists.linux-foundation.org>*<Accessibility-ia2 at lists.linux-foundation.org>
> > Date: 06/22/2011 11:19 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Accessibility-ia2] next changes to IAccessible2
> > Sent by: *accessibility-ia2-bounces at lists.linuxfoundation.org*<accessibility-ia2-bounces at lists.linuxfoundation.org>
> >
> >
> > On 6/22/2011 8:27 AM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote:
> > Pete,
> >
> > I am looking at accessibleDocument. Should we not do more than that
> > for a document interface? Should we also have features to collect
> > and access specific objects with a specific element type - filtering
> > mechanisms?
> > Hi Rich, It's been a long time since I looked at accessibleDocument.
> > (It's not part of IA2.) I couldn't find a link in my archives.
> > Please send it. Would that discussion be better held on the parent
> > LF a11y list at *accessibility at lists.linux-foundation.org*<accessibility at lists.linux-foundation.org>? That
> > will also be of interest to the Linux a11y architects.
> >
> I have no idea. I just found it odd that we would add only one method for a
> document.
>
> You said you were looking at accessibleDocument.  Please send me a link to
> what you are looking at.  accessibleDocument is not part of IA2.  For
> Symphony documents access is provided via IAccessibleText,
> IAccessibleHyperText, and IAccessibleHyperlink.
>
>
> > Note: I am in favor of not unnecessarily growing the API. API
> > changes cause a lot of churn. However, with the FCC adopting
> > creating new laws based on the 21st Century Communication and Video
> > act there is a need for infrastructure to better support the HTML 5
> > changes Silvia is working on to support video and audio.
> >
> > I am looking at the notification mechanism for media
> > MEDIA_TEXT_QUEUE_CHANGE. Would it be better to have a callback
> > registry for ATs similar to what we did in Java? I am concerned
> > about potential OS scheduling issues caused by posting events to the
> > message queue.
> > We've talked about adding something to get around the limitations of
> > WinEvent, primarily the lack of an event payload so out of process
> > AT don't have to use (and possibly get stale data) on a following
> > call fetching event data. It's not become enough of an issue that
> > the group has pushed that change through though.
> >
> > For in process AT the callback happens on the same thread that fires
> > the event. Jamie might be able to comment on what problems there
> > might be for out of process AT when handing a cue change event.
> >
>
> I think the difference here is we are trying to keep the video and audio
> descriptions in synch. That adds an additional level of concern for me. I
> will look to see what Jamie says. Descriptions could be quite long.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rich Schwerdtfeger
> > CTO Accessibility Software Group
> >
> > [image removed] Pete Brunet ---06/06/2011 11:12:32 PM---Hi all,
> > Please take a look at this and provide your feedback: *https://*<https:///>
> > wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility
> >
> > From: Pete Brunet *<pete at a11ysoft.com>* <pete at a11ysoft.com>
> > To: IA2 List *<Accessibility-ia2 at lists.freestandards.org>*<Accessibility-ia2 at lists.freestandards.org>
> > Date: 06/06/2011 11:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Accessibility-ia2] next changes to IAccessible2
> > Sent by: *accessibility-ia2-bounces at lists.linuxfoundation.org*<accessibility-ia2-bounces at lists.linuxfoundation.org>
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all, Please take a look at this and provide your feedback:
> >
> > *https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/IA2_1.3*<https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/IA2_1.3>
> >
> > Thanks, Pete
> > --
> > Pete Brunet
> >
> > a11ysoft - Accessibility Architecture and Development
> > (512) 238-6967 (work), (512) 689-4155 (cell)
> > Skype: pete.brunet
> > IM: ptbrunet (AOL, Google), *ptbrunet at live.com* <ptbrunet at live.com>(MSN)
> > *http://www.a11ysoft.com/about/* <http://www.a11ysoft.com/about/>
> > Ionosphere: WS4G
> >
> > On 3/11/2011 11:10 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
> > Hi, Jamie. I missed Mick suggestion on the list. It's sounds
> > reasonable and I agree we should try it before getting new API for
> > this since the issue is mostly about events.
> >
> > Thank you.
> > Alex.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:43 AM, James Teh *<jamie at nvaccess.org>*<jamie at nvaccess.org>wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > Nice work; good to get the discussion going. :)
> >
> > I still don't see a need for this registry API. Why not just use
> > IsWinEventHookInstalled(), as Mick suggested on the IA2 list?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Jamie
> >
> >
> > On 12/03/2011 3:48 AM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > I gathered ideas into one doc -
> > *https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/IA2_1.3*<https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/IA2_1.3>.
> Please give feedback
> > here and feel free to edit the wiki.
> >
> > Thank you.
> > Alex.
> >
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