[Accessibility-ia2] Fw: Re: IA2 Role Landmark

Joseph Scheuhammer clown at alum.mit.edu
Mon Feb 22 18:50:27 UTC 2016

Rich, James,

FYI, Rich's post to the IA2 list was scrubbed and a link provided to the 
original HTML attachment; however, it's not easy to read that way (see: 

I'm hoping this reply will replay the email thread on the IA2 list in a 
way that does not involve an attachment.

On 2016-02-22 12:42 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote:
> Hi James,
> The ARIA working group would like to add an IA2_ROLE_LANDMARK to IA2 
> to align with ATK/ATSPI and to accommodate the changes to ARIA 1.1 
> which would make a region a landmark. This would be used in accordance 
> with xml-roles which would provide the actual landmark role.
> Alex is ok with this as long as you are. Do you support adding this 
> role to IA2?
> Thanks,
> Rich
> Rich Schwerdtfeger
>     ----- Original message -----
>     From: "Gunderson, Jon R" <jongund at illinois.edu>
>     Sent by: accessibility-ia2-bounces at lists.linuxfoundation.org
>     To: Richard Schwerdtfeger <richschwer at gmail.com>, Alexander Surkov
>     <surkov.alexander at gmail.com>
>     Cc: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown at alum.mit.edu>, IA2 List
>     <Accessibility-ia2 at lists.linux-foundation.org>, ARIA Working Group
>     <public-aria at w3.org>
>     Subject: Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 Role Landmark
>     Date: Sun, Feb 21, 2016 9:10 AM
>     +1 on adding IA2_LANDMARK_ROLE
>     From: Richard Schwerdtfeger <richschwer at gmail.com
>     <mailto:richschwer at gmail.com>>
>     Date: Friday, February 19, 2016 at 5:37 PM
>     To: Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexander at gmail.com
>     <mailto:surkov.alexander at gmail.com>>
>     Cc: IA2 List <Accessibility-ia2 at lists.linux-foundation.org
>     <mailto:Accessibility-ia2 at lists.linux-foundation.org>>, ARIA
>     Working Group <public-aria at w3.org <mailto:public-aria at w3.org>>,
>     Joseph Scheuhammer <clown at alum.mit.edu <mailto:clown at alum.mit.edu>>
>     Subject: IA2 Role Landmark
>     Resent-From: <public-aria at w3.org <mailto:public-aria at w3.org>>
>     Resent-Date: Friday, February 19, 2016 at 5:37 PM
>     Hi Alex,
>     I am following up on this earlier discussion regarding needing an
>     http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2016-January/001993.html
>     <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.linuxfoundation.org_pipermail_accessibility-2Dia2_2016-2DJanuary_001993.html&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=REZD8fc2AwufInstfW3L5jSLVS8bjZtAodDOhat7yAI&m=POKSeF-dBsUkYFlnFdl1Pcw8MH_TjUxJEggNluL7_20&s=pz6AynSyJ7ENUuA3DkZXkWt5zidMjoi05W9TWshbj8I&e=>
>     A fundamental change from ARIA 1.0 is we now have the role
>     “region” as a descendant of a role of landmark:
>     https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.1/#region
>     <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3.org_TR_wai-2Daria-2D1.1_-23region&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=REZD8fc2AwufInstfW3L5jSLVS8bjZtAodDOhat7yAI&m=POKSeF-dBsUkYFlnFdl1Pcw8MH_TjUxJEggNluL7_20&s=mu08qOIVPLksq_1yC8aUhg5pwI-XNMtfYB8F38kri2Y&e=>
>     So, this is the revised set of landmarks:
>     https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.1/#landmark_roles
>     <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3.org_TR_wai-2Daria-2D1.1_-23landmark-5Froles&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=REZD8fc2AwufInstfW3L5jSLVS8bjZtAodDOhat7yAI&m=POKSeF-dBsUkYFlnFdl1Pcw8MH_TjUxJEggNluL7_20&s=Uf082yQETbwaIuxZEhRBiDAaVw7INWWBZ1Mhceujm2w&e=>
>     The reason for this is developers have been using labelledy
>     regions as landmarks and in HTML5 we now have a section landmark
>     which will default to a role of “region” if it has a label on it.
>     Given this change we would like this a new IA2_ROLE_LANDMARK that
>     matches the landmark role we now have in ATK/ATSPI. The xml-roles
>     attribute would take the value of the actual role as we know.
>     Is there any objection to introducing this new role in IA2?
>     We are trying to lock down ARIA 1.1 and this is one of the issues
>     we need to address.
>     Thanks,
>     Rich
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