[Accessibility] Draft minutes for 03/23/05 Accessibility meeting

[john goldthwaite]

We voted on the method to use for election of officers
at the beginning of the meeting before you can in.  I
just entered each person's vote after there name as we
were voting.  We should have told you about it and
given you an opportunity to vote when you can on the
call, if no one objects we could add your vote now.   


--- Earl Johnson <Earl.Johnson at Sun.COM> wrote:

> Hi John;
> 
> What does the normative, informative, abstain
> following most 
> folk's name signify or mean?
> 
> Earl
> 
> 
> john goldthwaite wrote:
> 
> > Access workgroup – 3/23/2005
> > 
> > Gunnar Schmidt-      normative
> > Bill Haneman	-    abstain
> > Willy -		     normative
> > Janina Sajka-   -   informative
> > John Goldthwaite-   informative
> > Pete Burnet-          normative
> > George Kraft     normative
> > Larry Weiss      normative
> > Earl Johnson   
> > Andreas Gonzales - informative
> > 
> > 03/16/05 Minutes approved as posted.
> > Would like a recap of CSUN but no attendees on the
> > call today.
> > 
> > Election process review.  
> > March 9 Minutes motion- let people know they will
> have
> > a vote in 2 weeks.  If people can’t attend that
> > meeting, they can vote by email.  Normative or not
> > normative?  
> > 
> > Janina- are we going to allow people not on the
> call
> > to vote by email?
> > George-  it was announced that the vote would be
> this
> > week and they should have voted by email by now.
> > Gunnar-  I had difficulty calling in last week,
> > thought I missed it.
> > Janina- no we said that we would take up the
> procedure
> > today.  You didn’t miss anything last week.  Does
> > anyone have a problem voting on the process today?
> 
> > Does everyone understand the difference between
> > informative vs. normative?
> > 
> > Voting results above.  total Normative 5,
> Informative
> > 3
> > 
> > Janina – the next step is to have a committee,
> George
> > can you and Earl to handle the election.  Can you
> come
> > back next week with a proposed schedule on
> nominations
> > and voting.  Can you provide some guidance to the
> > group on whether the term should be 1 year or 2
> year?
> > 
> > George- in the FSG board, they have 2 year terms
> that
> > are staggered.  1 year is too short, the  members
> are
> > just learning things the first year. 
> > Janina-
> > George-  I don’t know if you want to use that
> complex
> > a process.  Staggered
> > John- also could have vice chair take over after a
> > year
> > George- except you force out a chair that is doing
> a
> > good job.
> > Janina- any opposed to a staggered?  No, okay,
> which
> > position will we vote on this year?
> > Matthew – could we vote on both, the one who gets
> the
> > most votes is chair for 2 years, the other vice
> chair
> > for 1 year.
> > Bill- Chair and vice chair or chair and secretary?
> > Janina- it has been Chair and vice chair but John
> has
> > been doing the minutes.
> > Bill- I’d propose we make vice chair the one year
> > 
> > Janina- spent all week editing the meeting
> recordings.
> >  I’m on the wrap up meeting.
> > Where we have good audio, it is very good.  I have
> > bumped up volume where needed.  Have also snipped
> out
> > sections on logistics, dinner or agenda.  In the
> > discussion sections I am leaving things in.  There
> was
> > good substance in our deliberations.  The bad news
> is
> > that we don’t have audio for some sessions, in
> > particular for the meetings held in the other
> breakout
> > room.  The session Peter moderated had reasonably
> good
> > audio but you have to listen hard.  Bill did a
> > thorough recap on the action items and things that
> > need to be looked at.
> > Bill- that was the wrap up from day 2?
> > Janina- I’m thinking of the breakouts from
> Thursday.
> > Bill- I have audio recordings for some of these
> > sessions.  I have 7 large audio files. 
> > Janina- ftp those to me and I will work on them. 
> > ftp.rednote.net incoming directory. You can log in
> as
> > anonymous for the incoming directory.   There was
> one
> > other class of audio files, on the first day and
> half
> > where we trying to video stream.  We have some
> large
> > files that I can’t find any audio.  This may just
> be a
> > codec that I don’t have.  
> > Bill- is that day one only?
> > Janina- its day one and day two. I will have to
> ask
> > Stewart if he has this material in other format?
> > John- what was used to create them?
> > Janina- various tools were used to try to get
> video
> > and audio to stream together.  They are ogg files.
> > George- the hyperlinks say they are audio.
> > Bill- I just posted them into the irc.
> > Pete- when I was listening from home, I could hear
> the
> > audio so it should be there.  I was using windows.
> 
> > Janina- if you can get them in Windows, we should
> be
> > able to get it in Linux.
> > Bill- they may be Ceora, they are very big files,
> > about 25mb each.
> > 
> > Janina- beginning with Bill’s session 9, we do
> have
> > audio.   We have good audio
> > Bill- do we have intelligible audio from the break
> out
> > on day 3?
> > Janina- just from the main room, the other room
> > recordings aren’t good.
> > We aught to flag them.  George if I can turn to
> the 
> > Bill- I’m able to play the ogg files using Real
> Player
> > 8.  Let me try mission and scope, nope that gives
> a
> > 404 on these other audio links.  I’ll let George
> know
> > which are giving me 404 errors.  I tried session 6
> and
> > I and hear it.  There doesn’t seem to be any video
> in
> > it.  
> > Janina- I have problems with 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.  1 has
> > zero bytes. 
> > George-  I don’t see a session 5 files at all.
> > Bill- I don’t see 5 either.   Session 2 is going
> to be
> > a problem its too big, 250mb.
> > Janina- lets take this back to the list.  John has
> > check on transcription firm and there are many
> options
> > at good rates, here and overseas.  On George’s
> redone
> > page, it’s about right, we have the original
> posted
> > agenda but we modified that during the course of
> the
> > meeting.  We breakouts on day two were moved to
> day 3.
> >  We had Bill’s ATI outcomes session the beginning
> of
> > day 3.  I’ll send you my recollection of what the
> > amended schedule was.   It might useful to group
> the
> > agenda sessions around our activities.  Should 
> > Earl- this putting urls on the home page?  What
> would
> > be link
> > Janina- should we identify them on the face to
> face
> > page?  
> > Bill- I think the first is useful, the second as
> nice
> 
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