[Bitcoin-segwit2x] Require a new Statement from NYA companies

[Phillip Katete]

So we can safely say that, as we speak, bitcoin is somewhere in some hard drive(s), secure in it’s slumber seeing there have been a few hard forks since it’s inception. But you say these are not beliefs but absolute facts? What a load of rubbish.

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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-segwit2x] Require a new Statement from NYA companies

There's no such thing as consensus of what Bitcoin is, at least not in the abstract sense you are all yammering on about.

Bitcoin is the first blockchain, it's protocol defines it and what you can expect from it. You can only add rules, not change them.

A hard fork can NEVER be "Bitcoin" and Bitcoin can't even "die" (whether miners mine it or not, it remains in hibernation and is secure). These are absolute facts, not beliefs or theories. If you start from these fundamentals, you can make better decisions about how to manage your forks, soft or hard. You will understand you are competing with Bitcoin, not upgrading it.

You are not reaching consensus, your are campaigning and competing. You are not Bitcoin, you are using Bitcoin history as a proof of stake for a new blockchain.



On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 12:30 AM Luke Dashjr via Bitcoin-segwit2x <bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org<mailto:bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org>> wrote:
On Thursday 02 November 2017 4:53:42 PM Alberto De Luigi via Bitcoin-segwit2x
wrote:
> Actually the bitcoin Core developers never clarified why they are against
> segwit2x. There are no technical reasons.

I don't normally post here, but since you're making bogus claims about me like
this... I, at least, absolutely have clarified my stance on multiple
occasions.

Please read this reddit comment for a synopsis:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/61yvvv/request_to_core_devs_please_explain_your_vision/dficjhj/<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2FBitcoin%2Fcomments%2F61yvvv%2Frequest_to_core_devs_please_explain_your_vision%2Fdficjhj%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cpekatete%40hotmail.com%7C4bf553c3cae24b30b2c108d52247038a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636452610746146671&sdata=izLNkM7pD1PTKh4c1gt1XCoQUxWPi%2B7OHA5e1hN8qf8%3D&reserved=0>

>  2mb blocksize hf means very smooth change in 6 months, everybody knows it
>  and can prepare, fullnodes do not costs more, or the cost increase is
>  negligible.

Hardforks are almost* NEVER smooth, due to the design that entails what a
hardfork is.

The cost increase is not negligible. You're talking about the blockchain
increasing at a rate of ~263 GB per year. That's almost double the current
blockchain size, which already cuts out far too many users from running their
own node, to the point where Bitcoin today is not actually secure.

Note that 2X is NOT a 2 MB block size. It is up to 8 MB blocks.

Luke

* The exception is when the network has ceased to be functioning prior to the
change, which forces universal visibility into the matter. This is clearly NOT
the case for November; Bitcoin has been working fine since 2013.
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