[Bitcoin-segwit2x] September/October SegWit2x Status Update

[John Newbery]

As Alex has mentioned, I've been training new developers this morning, so I
haven't been following this thread. I'm at a non-profit initiative called
Dev++ which is attempting to address the real need for new developers in
the Bitcoin space: https://bitcoinedge.org/event/stanford-devplusplus-2017.
It's an offshoot of Scaling Bitcoin: https://bitcoinedge.org/, which is an
apolitical technical conference with representation from many voices in the
scaling debate.

Phillip, it should go without saying, but to be 100% clear and to avoid
misunderstanding:

I am AGAINST: violence, threats of violence, death threats, intimidation,
online bullying, verbal abuse, misogyny, discrimination, trolling and
unnecessary divisiveness in the Bitcoin space. I have spoken out against
these things in the past.

People who have interacted with me can vouch for my character. But why
trust them? My github and twitter accounts are public, as is my blog. Feel
free to look into those and decide whether you think I advocate violence.

I am FOR: clear and precise technical communication, so we can speak with
each other about the actual issues rather than talking past each other.
That's why I called Jeff out on his loose language. He should know better
than to call v0.15 buggy if he's simply referring to is issues.

Cheers,
John

On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Jeff Garzik <jeff at bloq.com> wrote:

> Please let's stick to the mailing list format and goal (technical
> discussion).
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Phillip Katete via Bitcoin-segwit2x <
> bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> Apologist in chief.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Dr Adam Back <adam at blockstream.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, November 3, 2017 6:45:31 PM
>> *To:* Phillip Katete
>> *Cc:* Ben Peters; John Newbery; Peter Todd via Bitcoin-segwit2x
>> *Subject:* Re: [Bitcoin-segwit2x] September/October SegWit2x Status
>> Update
>>
>> Come on that's ridiculous what's the matter with you?  There is no veiled
>> threat.
>>
>> As to death threats, slander and conspiracy is not without cost - people
>> in Bitcoin R&D community receive them all too often - driven by noisy
>> conspiracy theorist and unstable people who believe the conspiracies.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Nov 4, 2017 02:26, "Phillip Katete via Bitcoin-segwit2x" <
>> bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>>> The person that used the phrase commonly known to be a veiled threat can
>>> categorically state it was not a threat, but thus far has not. This blunt
>>> threat is made in the wake of several high profile backers of the SegWit2x
>>> upgrade receiving death threats and the apologists vouching for him as “a
>>> decent chap” notwithstanding having made this blunt threat, can (and
>>> should) be assumed to number amongst the sharp edge of the that threat. You
>>> are all culpable in this stupidity.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Ben Peters <ben at bitso.com>
>>> *Sent: *03 November 2017 18:10
>>> *To: *Phillip Katete <pekatete at hotmail.com>
>>> *Cc: *Marcel Jamin <marcel at jamin.net>; John Newbery
>>> <john at johnnewbery.com>; bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Bitcoin-segwit2x] September/October SegWit2x Status
>>> Update
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> @Phillip,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don’t see why it should be taken as a threat, and John is a decent
>>> chap as far as I know. My assumption is that he is simply concerned because
>>> he and others put a lot of work into the 0.15 update, don’t want to see
>>> that negated, and is probably concerned about issues that might arise
>>> should S2X succeed in its mission. I’m also assuming that Jeff and others
>>> have weighed the pros and cons appropriately (I certainly hope so, as I
>>> don’t have the time or knowledge to do so myself).
>>>
>>>
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