[Bitcoin-segwit2x] F2Pool backing out of NYA - Fork still happening?

Fri Oct 13 00:58:48 UTC 2017

As for the initial query for which the link was provided:
Bit 1 signalling barely achieved sustained backing of 35% (requiring 95%) in any voting window pre NYA (bip91/bit 4) signalling. That is verifiable from the blockchain and I do not have to click on any links. On the separate issue of where f2pool’s hash will end up, everyone is entitled to their opining and it is in my estimation that f2pool (having been weary of loosing money by un-necessarily restarting their servers to top signalling for NYA since Sep 1st) are not going to risk all their hash simply to “support” core.

@Kekcoin – if you got offended, good. And yes, you are a kid going by your last. And stop adding to the off-topic noise by apologising for being off-topic.

From: Kekcoin<mailto:kekcoin at protonmail.com>
Sent: 13 October 2017 01:37
To: Phillip Katete<mailto:pekatete at hotmail.com>
Cc: bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org<mailto:bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: RE: [Bitcoin-segwit2x] F2Pool backing out of NYA - Fork still happening?

Between your wild assumptions about my age, your fallacious implication that a younger age would imply lesser knowledge while simultaneously showcasing a severe lack of insight, and your random strawmen about what I would have said if this or that happened, I think I'll consider you a lost cause and cut this discussion short. Apologies to the list for the offtopic.

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Subject: RE: [Bitcoin-segwit2x] F2Pool backing out of NYA - Fork still happening?
Local Time: October 13, 2017 12:29 AM
UTC Time: October 13, 2017 12:29 AM
From: pekatete at hotmail.com
To: Kekcoin <kekcoin at protonmail.com>
bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org <bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org>

Honestly, I am neither trying to shame him nor have any intention of changing my email provider (probably had my Hotmail for as long as you are old!). The age old advice is not to click on links that you do not trust (and I have simply been transparent on this). But also the “information” was not solicited (big red flag) and more pertinently I do not trust blockstream (or their employees), what with all the DDoS attacks, character assassinations, attempts to usurp the bitcoin consensus mechanism et al. You’d be the first to blame me if I picked up a nasty virus from the link. Better safe than sorry.

From: Kekcoin<mailto:kekcoin at protonmail.com>
Sent: 13 October 2017 01:08
To: Phillip Katete<mailto:pekatete at hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-segwit2x] F2Pool backing out of NYA - Fork still happening?

>From the .outlook.com part of the domain it seems to me it's your hotmail injecting referral links in incoming emails. Perhaps reconsider your email provider and not publicly shame someone for trying to provide you with informational material. Hackingdistributed.com (as I can see is being linked in the referral) is Emin Sirer's real domain.

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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-segwit2x] F2Pool backing out of NYA - Fork still happening?
Local Time: October 12, 2017 6:57 PM
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From: bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org
To: Dr Adam Back <adam at blockstream.com>
bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org <bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org>

That link contains the word “safelinks” and it triggers alarms for me but having read a few of your postings elsewhere, I trust the link even less.
But I suppose we better limit posts to tech discussion (as the handbags have already started flying).

From: Dr Adam Back<mailto:adam at blockstream.com>
Sent: 12 October 2017 19:06
To: Phillip Katete<mailto:pekatete at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-segwit2x] F2Pool backing out of NYA - Fork still happening?

To understand more about mining economics and the creation vs
verification mechanism between miners and nodes, I recommend this
article by Prof Emin Sirer which explains it quite clearly.

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Adam

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Phillip Katete via Bitcoin-segwit2x
<bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> Whatever he may say he agreed to, the facts are that he voted to activate
> and lock-in SegWit2x on bit 4 (before voting on bit 1 to get the legacy
> clients activated and locked-in too).
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> Despite the sabre rattling, f2pool will end up on the majority chain as they
> are not in the space to prop up core.
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> From: Brian Hoffman via Bitcoin-segwit2x
> Sent: 12 October 2017 16:56
> To: Peter BitcoinReminder.com; Peter Todd via Bitcoin-segwit2x
> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-segwit2x] F2Pool backing out of NYA - Fork still
> happening?
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> Where have you been? Wang Chun has said they never were agreed to NYA post
> segwit so what’s your point exactly?
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> It’s obvious that there will be a chain split at this point.
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> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 8:53 AM Peter BitcoinReminder.com via
> Bitcoin-segwit2x <bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
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> I was just pointing out that F2Pool just stopped NYA signaling some hours
> ago - which is a new information.
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> And still nobody answered my question if you know acknowledge that there
> will be a chain split for sure and you are intentionally splitting off?
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> Am 12.10.2017 um 17:50 schrieb Jeff Garzik <jeff at bloq.com>:
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> It is information over a month old. See counter.
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