[Bitcoin-segwit2x] We are all bitcoin

Mike Belshe mike at bitgo.com
Sat Oct 14 15:19:19 UTC 2017


I've banned Scott.

On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 8:11 AM, Cedrick Perrigo via Bitcoin-segwit2x <
bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> You wonders do not belong to this mailing list. Get those silly
> speculations elsewhere.
>
> It's users deciding to use those services, not the other way around. If
> users are not happy, they can leave any time. But yet you see, that's not
> what's happening.
>
>
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-segwit2x] We are all bitcoin
> Local Time: October 14, 2017 11:04 PM
> UTC Time: October 14, 2017 3:04 PM
> From: segwit2x_mailinglist at bitcoinreminder.com
> To: Cedrick Perrigo <cedrickperrigo at protonmail.com>
> Phillip Katete <pekatete at hotmail.com>, bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.
> linuxfoundation.org <bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org>
>
>  If any of them are pro-segwit1x, they should immediately terminate their
> business with those companies or stop using those wallets.
>
>
> I wonder then why Coinbase, Bitpay,.. etc are not asking its users or
> telling them to " immediately terminate their business with those companies
> or stop using those wallets“?
>
>
> I never see people arguing on a Bitcoin Cash mailing list to show which
> one has the majority support.
>
>
> BCash was professional enough to include replay protection - which is not
> the case with B2X until now.
>
> Am 14.10.2017 um 17:00 schrieb Cedrick Perrigo <
> cedrickperrigo at protonmail.com>:
>
> Funny you listed something that only has less than 400 responses. How is
> that something "objective"?
>
> Many people don't care or are neutral to segwit1x vs segwit2x, of course.
> Businesses and services they use would take them to segwit2x, like the
> 10,000 merchants and millions of users. If any of them are pro-segwit1x,
> they should immediately terminate their business with those companies or
> stop using those wallets. We didn't see it happen.
>
> If you truly think those poll counts, why would you still arguing with me
> on a segwit2x mailing list? It only shows that you're extremely doubtful of
> your belief. I never see people arguing on a Bitcoin Cash mailing list to
> show which one has the majority support.
>
> Also you missed the counter-argument for "majority of miners". So I assume
> at least we agree that majority of miners support segwit2x. :)
>
> Now this is a technical mailing list. Would trolls please find elsewhere
> for those nonsense?
>
>
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-segwit2x] We are all bitcoin
> Local Time: October 14, 2017 10:48 PM
> UTC Time: October 14, 2017 2:48 PM
> From: segwit2x_mailinglist at bitcoinreminder.com
> To: Cedrick Perrigo <cedrickperrigo at protonmail.com>
> Phillip Katete <pekatete at hotmail.com>, bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.
> linuxfoundation.org <bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org>
>
> It’s funny how you imply that "10,000 merchants of BitPay, millions of
> users of Blockchain.info <http://blockchain.info/>, Bitcoin.com
> <http://bitcoin.com/>, Xapo, Coinbase, millions of buyers and sellers of
> OpenBazar“ are in favour of b2x?
>
> The only sybill resistant poll which I know (even created by data of users
> from Coinbase!!!) shows that most of the coinbase customers are not in
> favour of b2x?
>
> https://luke.dashjr.org/programs/kycpoll/answers.php
>
> This link was twittered on /r/bitcoin, /r/btc and reweeted also by many
> B2X proponents.
>
> So please, show me some data how these "10,000 merchants of BitPay,
> millions of users of Blockchain.info <http://blockchain.info/>, Bitcoin.
> com <http://bitcoin.com/>, Xapo, Coinbase, millions of buyers and sellers
> of OpenBazar“ are in favour of b2x?
>
>
> Am 14.10.2017 um 16:44 schrieb Cedrick Perrigo via Bitcoin-segwit2x <
> bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org>:
>
> In the grand scheme of things, 10,000 merchants of BitPay, millions of
> users of Blockchain.info <http://blockchain.info/>, Bitcoin.com
> <http://bitcoin.com/>, Xapo, Coinbase, millions of buyers and sellers of
> OpenBazar, majority of miners do not count but you only count a tiny
> thousand people on a Twitter poll. How funny this is.
>
> If you actually look into Twitter, there are only around a thousand people
> who has the "no2x" tag. Not all of them are trolling. However, people who
> state that those are everything that counts, especially on a segwit2x
> mailing list, is certainly trolling and does not worth any people's
> attention.
>
> Bitcoin will be what majority calls it. Period.
>
>
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-segwit2x] We are all bitcoin
> Local Time: October 14, 2017 10:32 PM
> UTC Time: October 14, 2017 2:32 PM
> From: bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org
> To: Scott Roberts <wordsgalore at gmail.com>, bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.
> linuxfoundation.org <bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org>
>
>
> In the grand scheme of things, 1,168 responders is not exactly
> representative of the bitcoin community, is it? But that number, for a
> sample size, falls in the range of what is referred to as statistically
> irrelevant. It seems like you’ll have to do even more reading up!
>
>
>
> *From: *Scott Roberts via Bitcoin-segwit2x
> <bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org>
> *Sent: *14 October 2017 15:25
> *To: *bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org
> *Subject: *Re: [Bitcoin-segwit2x] We are all bitcoin
>
>
>
> > I have NEVER seen a twitter poll on bitcoin that had a statistically
> relevant sample size. But also bear in mind that by it’s very nature,
> twitter creates bubbles where like minded people follow each other.
>
>
> 1,168 with 30x difference in responses is very significant. Show me
> the twitter bubble where like-minded SegWit2x supporters show their
> support.
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