[Bitcoin-segwit2x] PROPOSAL: B0RG (Bitcoin zero replay, guarantee) - Ensuring a smooth 2X upgrade without a chain split

Chris Stewart chris at suredbits.com
Tue Oct 24 14:58:57 UTC 2017


>RP that encourages a network split would render the NYA voidable

Phillip, if there is consensus on one thing, it is there is going to be a
network split. Every exchange is publishing policies for the chain split.
Some even saying that they will not support the segwit2x token.

-Chris

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Samuel Reed via Bitcoin-segwit2x <
bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> You may have mining consensus, although you know how fickle that is by
> practice. It is dwindling now and is likely to break below 80%. You do not
> have user consensus. We have only the safety of our users in mind and I
> strongly encourage you to consider the many ways in which this split could
> end in disaster.
>
>
> Phillip Katete wrote:
>
> Samuel you are barking up the wrong tree here (as has been said a
> multitude of times). RP that encourages a network split would render the
> NYA voidable. I am sure that is what you want, but clearly that is not
> going to happen.
>
>
>
> The SegWit2x upgrade has overwhelming consensus as measured by the only
> Sybil resistant consensus mechanism, the results of which are permanently
> recorded on the blockchain. Repeatedly claiming the opposite is simply
> being disingenuous. Please refrain from exacerbating the hostility and
> toxicity that’s been created in the space.
>
>
>
> *From: *Samuel Reed via Bitcoin-segwit2x
> <bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org>
> *Sent: *24 October 2017 15:27
> *To: *bitcoin-segwit2x at lists.linuxfoundation.org
> *Subject: *Re: [Bitcoin-segwit2x] PROPOSAL: B0RG (Bitcoin zero replay,
> guarantee) - Ensuring a smooth 2X upgrade without a chain split
>
>
>
> BEL has the right idea. It is irresponsible to pretend you have the
> consensus necessary to do a smooth upgrade without replay protection,
> when you do not. Continuing on this path is hostile to Bitcoin and its
> users.
>
> Of course upgrades with consensus do not require replay protection, as
> the original chain is meant to die. It is very obvious now that the 1x
> chain will not die and any assertion otherwise is intentional ignorance.
>
> There are only two responsible options for the 2x team now that the
> mindshare has been lost:
>
> 1. Launch 2x with replay protection, creating another altcoin; this will
> give miners another SHA256 coin to mine when it is profitable to do so,
> but will not provide much real value to the community and will even
> compete against BCH, or
> 2. Don't launch 2x at all, and attempt to create consensus another day.
>
> A responsible team should not consider a third option, where 2x is
> launched without protection, causing potentially millions of coins to
> leak and untold accounting nightmares for every user and exchange.
>
> --
> Samuel Reed
> CTO,
> BitMEX
>
> bitcoin-segwit2x-request at lists.linuxfoundation.org wrote:
> > Re: [Bitcoin-segwit2x] PROPOSAL: B0RG (Bitcoin zero replay
> >        guarantee) - Ensuring a smooth 2X upgrade without a chain split
>
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