[cgl_discussion] Latest draft on security requirements

Mika Kukkonen mika at osdl.org
Tue Nov 12 14:20:30 PST 2002


On ti, 2002-11-12 at 14:01, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 13:50, Mika Kukkonen wrote:
> > On ti, 2002-11-12 at 12:12, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
(...)
> But do the CGL requirements meet the required international standards?

Well, most goverments feel that they want to create their own
_confidential_ security specifications, instead of using publicly
available "standards".

> and are these standards likely to be applied to commercial systems?

If by commercial systems you refer to banks, I actually might agree, but
if you refer to Yahoo or Ebay, I disagree. Crafty businessmen are always
ready to save sizable amount of money now by risking a reasonable loss
in future.

> The problem is that it just isn't paranoid enough; knowing the security
> folks in DRM environments, this just doesn't go far enough.  Really
> think that without TCA platform support the rest of the infrastructure
> becomes a Maginot line of security (ie. looks big and tall but the army
> of hackers just march around it).

OK, so what you are saying is that for a system to be really secure, you
need specialised hardware? I agree with that, but it is definitely _not_
in CGL-WG's scope to start defining such hardware, or even interfaces
towards such hardware (that would be such a can of worms that as a legal
alien in US my palms get sweaty from even thinking about such a thing).

But I guess we could add a fifth level of security ("Hardware assisted
security"?) to the spec and just say that it is not in our scope.

--MiKu
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