[cgl_discussion] POC concall 5/8 Minutes (no concall 5/15)

Steven Dake sdake at mvista.com
Thu May 8 09:26:01 PDT 2003


OSDL POC 5/8 Conference Call Minutes

**** No PoC Conference call May 15 because of F2F in Helsinki.

CALLS TO ACTION:
* Rusty's call:  If your interested in HPI, please provide feedback on 
how you
   plan to use the project.

* Mika would appreciate if member companies would take TIPC code and
   test and provide information on what features/changes are needed 
(feedback).
   "Even TIPC sucks is fine" :)

* Mika suggested member companies look at AEM in a similiar fashion to
   TIPC.

Attendes
--------
Mika - Nokia
Johannes Jaskari - Nokia
Rusty Lynch - Intel
Venkat Jagana - IBM
Steven Dake - MontaVista Software
Mark Haverkamp - OSDL
Randy - OSDL

Brainstorm items from 5/1 PoC conference call
---------------------------------------------
* member companies would like to know what features distros will take
* member companies want to know what open POC/open source projects to
assign engineers.
* get distro companies to commit up front what features they will support
* make OSDL PoC coordination center for development of new features
* get member companies to sign onto projects and track those projects

* Brainstorm
------------
What does POC need from member companies.
Document officially who is working on what project (voluntary by member 
companies)

What do members get from the PoC.
clearing house for project information and project contact

How to involve member companies that are not involved
problem is member companies dont see any value in getting involved.

Agreement that this should be discussed in detail at F2F.

* project TAHI
--------------
Intel TAHI patch not yet included because maintainer of patch for Linux
support on vacation.

* Project OpenHPI
-----------------
Picking up pace.
People at Intel and IBM contributing.  Few from other companies making 
comments
on implementation.  Prototype code built which leads to stronger questions
about how to treat remoteability.

Rusty's call:  If your interested in HPI, please provide feedback on how you
plan to use the project.

Question about membership, there is a config file for membership.
No conclusion on XML-RPC  because no feedback given.
Hardware comes in via plugin.  remote system is another plugin type.

Fully implemented HPI atleast a few months away.  Within next month, code
to grab and test writing HPI application.

* Project IPv6
--------------
Suse has released officially bits for service pack 2 contains major peice of
IPv6, mobile IP.
Interoperability tests such as TAHI & UETS between multiple Linux 
vendors show
good interoperability tests.  No interoperability reports for Solaris 
and Linux
targets.

* Project HDI
-------------
Johannes reports not much progress.  Nokia happy with their current network
interface naming technologies.

Montavista planning SDE for next Carrier Grade

* Project TIPC
--------------
Mika working on day job, not alot of time to work on TIPC.  Working on data
structure rewrite (in beginning).

Code is stable.  Mika would appreciate if member companies would take 
code and
test and provide information on what features/changes are needed (feedback).
"Even TIPC sucks is fine" :)

* Project AEM
-------------
Implementation is available.  OSDL is looking at it.  Member companies 
need to look
at AEM implementation.
Curiousity of what distros think of AEM.
Generic distro answer would be for acceptance of AEM & TIPC:
1. Accepted into mainline kernel
2. Required by customers
3. Requirements specified in OSDL specs that AEM or TIPC implementation 
would
   fulfill and that version of OSDL spec required by customers.

2.7 wishlist
------------
Steve is currently taking DCL wishlist format and applying OSDL 2.0 specs
to it.  Once list is available, it will be published to members so that 
members
may debate urgency difficulty and status of each of the items.  Goal is to
have complete analysis as well as top 5 items before F2F at OLS.






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