[cgl_discussion] cgl_discussion Digest, Vol 5, Issue 1

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Today's Topics:

1. CGL Wiki - POC tracking comments (Cress, Andrew R)
 2. Re: CGL Wiki - POC tracking comments (John Cherry)
 3. RE: CGL Wiki - POC tracking comments (Cress, Andrew R)
 4. Re: CGL Wiki - POC tracking comments (Joel Krauska)
 5. Re: CGL Wiki - POC tracking comments (Steven Dake)
 6. Lost email from this morning (Mika Kukkonen)

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From: "Cress, Andrew R" <andrew.r.cress at intel.com>
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Subject: [cgl_discussion] CGL Wiki - POC tracking comments
Cc: "Fleischer, Julie N" <julie.n.fleischer at intel.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 08:47:37 -0500
To: <cgl_discussion at osdl.org>
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RE: [cgl_discussion] CGL Wiki now has all POC tracking information
 CGL Wiki at http://www.osdl.org/cgi-bin/cgl_wiki.pl -> CGL 2.0 Project
List.

I like this project list.  I have a few comments:
 1) Need a link from the osdl.org home page to this.
 2) Project list page description needs to indicate that this includes
CGL
    1.0, 1.1, and 2.0 projects.  (This would be a good place to start
adding 3.0 ones too).
 3) Need some ordering of projects (alphabetic or grouped by function)
 4) We need some level of administration (control after edits) or
    moderation (control before edits) over the project list.
 5) I think it would be good, on each page, to have a link to
    the requirement section that it is talking about, both for
    explanation and evaluation.

Andy


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From: John Cherry <cherry at osdl.org>
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Subject: Re: [cgl_discussion] CGL Wiki - POC tracking comments
Cc: "Fleischer, Julie N" <julie.n.fleischer at intel.com>,
cgl_discussion at osdl.org
Date: Day, 06 Jan 2004 07:23:10 -0800
To: "Cress, Andrew R" <andrew.r.cress at intel.com>
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On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 05:47, Cress, Andrew R wrote:
> RE: [cgl_discussion] CGL Wiki now has all POC tracking information
>  CGL Wiki at http://www.osdl.org/cgi-bin/cgl_wiki.pl -> CGL 2.0 Project
> List.
>
> I like this project list.  I have a few comments:
>  1) Need a link from the osdl.org home page to this.

The link to the wiki page is on developer.osdl.org.

>  2) Project list page description needs to indicate that this includes
> CGL
>     1.0, 1.1, and 2.0 projects.  (This would be a good place to start
> adding 3.0 ones too).
>  3) Need some ordering of projects (alphabetic or grouped by function)
>  4) We need some level of administration (control after edits) or
>     moderation (control before edits) over the project list.

The wiki page is open to anybody.  This is a risk we accepted when we
set up this page.  The wiki page should not be the permanent source of
project data.  We should continue Julie's spreadsheet and keep it under
document control.

One can monitor the changes made to this page through "RecentChanges".

>  5) I think it would be good, on each page, to have a link to
>     the requirement section that it is talking about, both for
>     explanation and evaluation.
>
> Andy
>
> _______________________________________________
> cgl_discussion mailing list
> cgl_discussion at lists.osdl.org
> http://lists.osdl.org/mailman/listinfo/cgl_discussion


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From: "Cress, Andrew R" <andrew.r.cress at intel.com>
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Subject: RE: [cgl_discussion] CGL Wiki - POC tracking comments
Cc: "Fleischer, Julie N" <julie.n.fleischer at intel.com>,
cgl_discussion at osdl.org
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 11:18:28 -0500
To: "John Cherry" <cherry at osdl.org>
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John,

>>  1) Need a link from the osdl.org home page to this.
>The link to the wiki page is on developer.osdl.org.

Good, but we need to have some kind of project tracking link from
http://www.osdl.org/lab_activities/carrier_grade_linux/
similar to the "CGL Project Tracking" list/link on
http://developer.osdl.org.
Probably by adding it to the Navigation list under Carrier Grade Linux.


It sounds like the administration/control issue will be covered by the
spreadsheet.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: John Cherry [mailto:cherry at osdl.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 10:23 AM
To: Cress, Andrew R
Cc: cgl_discussion at osdl.org; Fleischer, Julie N
Subject: Re: [cgl_discussion] CGL Wiki - POC tracking comments


On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 05:47, Cress, Andrew R wrote:
> RE: [cgl_discussion] CGL Wiki now has all POC tracking information
>  CGL Wiki at http://www.osdl.org/cgi-bin/cgl_wiki.pl -> CGL 2.0
Project
> List.
>
> I like this project list.  I have a few comments:
>  1) Need a link from the osdl.org home page to this.

The link to the wiki page is on developer.osdl.org.

>  2) Project list page description needs to indicate that this includes
> CGL
>     1.0, 1.1, and 2.0 projects.  (This would be a good place to start
> adding 3.0 ones too).
>  3) Need some ordering of projects (alphabetic or grouped by function)
>  4) We need some level of administration (control after edits) or
>     moderation (control before edits) over the project list.

The wiki page is open to anybody.  This is a risk we accepted when we
set up this page.  The wiki page should not be the permanent source of
project data.  We should continue Julie's spreadsheet and keep it under
document control.

One can monitor the changes made to this page through "RecentChanges".

>  5) I think it would be good, on each page, to have a link to
>     the requirement section that it is talking about, both for
>     explanation and evaluation.
>
> Andy
>
> _______________________________________________
> cgl_discussion mailing list
> cgl_discussion at lists.osdl.org
> http://lists.osdl.org/mailman/listinfo/cgl_discussion



From: Joel Krauska <jkrauska at cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [cgl_discussion] CGL Wiki - POC tracking comments
Cc: "Fleischer, Julie N" <julie.n.fleischer at intel.com>,
cgl_discussion at osdl.org,      "Cress, Andrew R" <andrew.r.cress at intel.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 08:55:58 -0800
To: John Cherry <cherry at osdl.org>
References: <E5DA6395B8F9614EB7A784D628184B207E14C0 at hdsmsx402.hd.intel.com>
<1073402590.16755.8.camel at lapcherry>
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Reply-To: Joel Krauska <jkrauska at cisco.com>
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On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 07:23:10AM -0800, John Cherry wrote:
> >  3) Need some ordering of projects (alphabetic or grouped by function)
> >  4) We need some level of administration (control after edits) or
> >     moderation (control before edits) over the project list.
>
> The wiki page is open to anybody.  This is a risk we accepted when we
> set up this page.  The wiki page should not be the permanent source of
> project data.  We should continue Julie's spreadsheet and keep it under
> document control.

I was envisioning something closer to a discussion board.
(slashdot or tivoforum style)

We have a fixed (currently) set of items that we'd like to solicit
feedback from the community on...  I think those items should be
locked, and we should allow fro threaded conversations/posts based on
our original requirements.

Another section could be used to solicit for new items, etc.


Another enhancement question:
Add POC status and GAP "tags" as a searchable, sortable item?

Does this make sense?

I think we DO want the Wiki to make Julie's life easier.
I'm not sure this helps, as it currently stands.



--joel

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From: Steven Dake <sdake at mvista.com>
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Subject: Re: [cgl_discussion] CGL Wiki - POC tracking comments
Cc: "Fleischer, Julie N" <julie.n.fleischer at intel.com>,
cgl_discussion at osdl.org,      "Cress, Andrew R" <andrew.r.cress at intel.com>
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 11:46:21 -0700
To: John Cherry <cherry at osdl.org>
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<1073402590.16755.8.camel at lapcherry>
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Wiki is not a sufficient mechanism for discussion.  It is really more
appropriate for presenting information from development authors.

What I would like to see is an HTML front page with links to wiki pages
for authors to present information, and discussion boards for anyone to
comment on the projects or contribute.

Tieing these three resources together (HTML front page, wiki,
discussion) provides a powerful environment for open discussion and
publication to take place regarding OSDL requirement implementations.

John, could OSDL add discussion boards in the slashdot style?

Thanks
-steve

On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 08:23, John Cherry wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 05:47, Cress, Andrew R wrote:
> > RE: [cgl_discussion] CGL Wiki now has all POC tracking information
> >  CGL Wiki at http://www.osdl.org/cgi-bin/cgl_wiki.pl -> CGL 2.0 Project
> > List.
> >
> > I like this project list.  I have a few comments:
> >  1) Need a link from the osdl.org home page to this.
>
> The link to the wiki page is on developer.osdl.org.
>
> >  2) Project list page description needs to indicate that this includes
> > CGL
> >     1.0, 1.1, and 2.0 projects.  (This would be a good place to start
> > adding 3.0 ones too).
> >  3) Need some ordering of projects (alphabetic or grouped by function)
> >  4) We need some level of administration (control after edits) or
> >     moderation (control before edits) over the project list.
>
> The wiki page is open to anybody.  This is a risk we accepted when we
> set up this page.  The wiki page should not be the permanent source of
> project data.  We should continue Julie's spreadsheet and keep it under
> document control.
>
> One can monitor the changes made to this page through "RecentChanges".
>
> >  5) I think it would be good, on each page, to have a link to
> >     the requirement section that it is talking about, both for
> >     explanation and evaluation.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > cgl_discussion mailing list
> > cgl_discussion at lists.osdl.org
> > http://lists.osdl.org/mailman/listinfo/cgl_discussion
>
> _______________________________________________
> cgl_discussion mailing list
> cgl_discussion at lists.osdl.org
> http://lists.osdl.org/mailman/listinfo/cgl_discussion
>
>


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From: Mika Kukkonen <mika at osdl.org>
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Subject: [cgl_discussion] Lost email from this morning
Cc:
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 11:27:56 -0800
To: CGL Discussion <cgl_discussion at osdl.org>,   Portland OSDL Staff
<osdl_staff_pdx at osdl.org>
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<sigh> Due to some wonderful (?) interaction between evolution & mutt
over ssh and OSDL IMAP webmail, I managed to lost all my emails between
8.18am and 11.21am this morning (please don't ask me why I was doing
multiple clients, I have enough anger already against my home connection
provider).

So if you sent me something important, please resend. Thanks.

--MiKu


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