[cgl_discussion] Re: [cgl_specs] Use case - Live patching
Brian F. G. Bidulock
bidulock at openss7.org
Wed Mar 30 06:42:19 PST 2005
But, as it stands, the requirement is not limited in the use case
to user applications (and specific ones at that). I think that not
forbidding expanded scope goes without saying...
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Corey Minyard wrote:
> No. A standard that restricts extra things a distro may do is wrong.
> This has nothing to do with verifiable certification.
> IMHO, all a distro should be required to do is allow patching of a user
> application. With that, it would clearly meet CGL requirements and it
> is verifiable. A distro may restrict that to only user applications, it
> may allow patching of core components, it may only allow it's own
> patches to be used for core components, etc. But adding a restriction
> where the distro may not allow it's libraries or OS to be patched is an
> extra restriction that adds nothing to certification and limits what a
> distro can to beyond the standard to compete in the marketplace.
> And you comment about being fuzzy about what is and is not allowed is
> not correct. I'm sure SuSE ships a lot of packages that are not
> mentioned in the CGL standard. Would you like to have to remove all
> those packages and only ship what is explicitly mentioned in the
> standard? The standard should be clear about what is required, and
> should not be fuzzy about that. However, it should allow things beyond
> the standard. Allowing this does a couple of things. It lets the
> distro vendor add value beyond the standard. It shows where the
> standard needs to be extended. And it allows new technology to be
> tested in the market.
> I believe a limitation like this would be like adding the limitation:
> "You can only provide support 12 hours a day." It's an unnecessary
> limitation. The distro should be able to provide any level of support
> it thinks customers require.
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