[Chaoss-members] Creation of a new project on Diversity and Inclusion Metrics/Software

Sean Goggins s at goggins.com
Fri Nov 10 20:11:32 UTC 2017

Hi Daniel and Everyone!

I think the role of geography in defining racial diversity is an important point Daniel makes. This is especially true when there are significant populations of indigenous peoples living alongside colonizers like my ancestors. 

If we focus on providing what metrics we can about distributions of different peoples in a population I think we are on solid ground. 

Those applying our metrics can make choices about how to interpret. And, as noted elsewhere, this is data not usually in software repositories, so we will need to get it elsewhere.


> On Nov 10, 2017, at 1:33 PM, D M German <dmg at turingmachine.org <mailto:dmg at turingmachine.org>> wrote:
> Jono Bacon twisted the bytes to say:
> Jono> I think CHAOSS helping to define effective metrics for measuring diversity
> Jono> and inclusion initiatives is worthy work. It goes without saying that we
> Jono> should be building more inclusive personalities and companies, and I think
> Jono> CHAOSS could play a useful role in determining how to measure progress in
> Jono> these areas.
> i fully agree.
> Jono> My worry here is that this is a politically charged topic with a wide
> Jono> variety of opinions and perspectives and that the project could get bogged
> Jono> down into semantics about what "diversity" means and what "inclusion" means
> Jono> as opposed to producing pragmatic materials and technology to help move the
> Jono> needle. As such, I would recommend:
> I would just add that what is diverse (in general) is very geographical
> dependent, specially when it comes to race.
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