[Chaoss-Board] How to continue CHAOSScast? [Fwd: Rebase is shutting down on Sept 18]

Wed Sep 9 21:45:26 UTC 2020

Including the stats is a good idea :)

On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 4:44 PM Georg Link <linkgeorg at gmail.com> wrote:

> We could mention that episodes are downloaded about 40 times in the first
> week; but I don’t want to highlight that unless we are asked.
>
> On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:37 PM, Georg Link <linkgeorg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks everyone for the feedback.
>
> To ask for sponsorship, here is an email draft to request funding.
> Please let me know if you have other ideas for the sponsorship levels and
> perks.
>
> *Subject: *CHAOSS is seeking funding for its podcast CHAOSScast
>
> Hi,
>
> As a valued CHAOSS community members, we want to ask for your help finding
> funding for our community podcast CHAOSScast.
>
> The community goals for CHAOSScast are to elevate conversations about open
> source community health metrics, analytics, and software. We are sharing
> stories, experiences, and insights that are complementary to the work we do
> on defining metrics and building software. CHAOSScast is an outreach effort
> to introduce our work to others.
>
> We are now seeking funding because the podcast network that provided
> financial support through selling sponsorship is shutting down.
>
> We are open to including a sponsor message in our episodes for anyone who
> financially supports CHAOSScast.
>
> Sponsorship Level: $1,000
> Perk: pre-roll sponsor message and mention in show notes for 4 episodes
>
> Sponsorship Level: $2,500
> Perk: pre-roll and mid-roll sponsorship message and mention in show notes
> for 12 episodes.
>
> Sponsorship Level: $5,000
> Perk: pre-roll, mid-roll sponsorship message and mention in show notes for
> 30 episodes.
>
> Sponsorship Level: $10,000
> Perk: pre-roll, mid-roll, and end-roll sponsorship message and mention in
> show notes for 50 episodes. Weekly thank-you message in our newsletter to
> the CHOASS community. Logo display on our website chaoss.community.
>
>
>
> On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:17 PM, Sean Goggins <s at goggins.com> wrote:
>
> +1
>
>
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> On Sep 8, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Daniel Izquierdo <
> daniel.izquierdo.cortazar at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1 to your proposal Georg with Matt's restrictions on top :).
>
> We may need to be more aggressive looking for sponsors and review this
> perhaps after two episodes / 1 month.
>
> Regards,
> Daniel.
>
>
> El mar., 8 sept. 2020 a las 22:15, Matt Germonprez (<germonprez at gmail.com>)
> escribió:
>
>> Hi Georg,
>>
>> Thanks for the follow-up on this.
>>
>> Yes, I think that we need to slow the cadence. The problem, even with
>> what you propose, is that our current Community Bridge account would only
>> fund this for two months. I'm hoping to address this but for now, this is
>> where things are at. I would say, perhaps, one month under this model
>> (funds to be approved by the finance team) and during that time, we pretty
>> aggressively look for financial sponsorship for CHAOSScast.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 2:59 PM Georg Link <linkgeorg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on how to continue CHAOSScast without Rebase.fm
>>> <http://rebase.fm/>'s services?
>>>
>>> I propose we do the following:
>>> 1. Continue to use Firebase for hosting podcast ($19/month)
>>> 2. Pay for audio editing ($99/episode).
>>> 3. Pay for detailed show notes ($60/episode).
>>> 4. Reduce release frequency to every other week to cut cost.
>>> 5. Approach sponsors to secure funding for CHAOSScast.
>>>
>>> This will cost us $349/month for 2 episodes per month.
>>>
>>> I can lay out the expenses and request a refund through Community Bridge.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Georg
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 4:24 PM Georg Link <linkgeorg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> TL/DR:
>>>> I just got below message that Rebase will shut down and stop supporting
>>>> CHAOSScast in two weeks.
>>>> The good news is that we own CHAOSScast and will not lose anything.
>>>> The bad news is that we need to find a new way to sustain the podcast.
>>>>
>>>> I’m informing you about this development so that we can find a solution
>>>> together.
>>>> Your thoughts are welcome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rebase provided the following key services:
>>>> 1. Zoom room for recording
>>>> 2. Audio editing
>>>> 3. Show notes creation
>>>> 4. Fireside account
>>>> 5. Add revenue sharing
>>>>
>>>> I don’t know how we want to move forward yet but want to start the
>>>> conversation with you all.
>>>> Thinking about the services and what alternative options we have:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Zoom room for recording
>>>> * Option 1: I hope we can cover this with the CHAOSS Zoom that we are
>>>> getting.
>>>> * Option 2: We use a different tool like Jitsi meet.
>>>> * Other options?
>>>>
>>>> 2) Audio editing
>>>> * Option 1: Hire Paul, who has done an amazing job so far: $99 per
>>>> episode.
>>>> * Option 2: Hire someone else.
>>>> * Option 3: We find a volunteer in our community who does it for free
>>>> and for the love of the project.
>>>> * Other options?
>>>>
>>>> 3) Show notes creation
>>>> * Option 1: Hire DeAnn for $60 per episode
>>>> * Option 2: Hire someone else
>>>> * Option 3: We find a volunteer in our community who does it for free
>>>> and for the love of the project.
>>>> * Option 4: Not have show notes
>>>> * Other options?
>>>>
>>>> 4) Fireside account
>>>> * Option 1: We take over the fireside account for $19/month
>>>> * Option 2: We find a different way of hosting, e.g., WordPress plugin
>>>> * Other options?
>>>>
>>>> 5) Add revenue sharing
>>>> The add revenue was a key reason to work with CPN and Rebase because it
>>>> financed the audio editing, show notes, and hosting while also giving us
>>>> some money to use for thank you notes and possibly equipment.
>>>> * Option 1: We find our own sponsors to pay for audio editing, show
>>>> notes, and hosting.
>>>> * Option 2: We do everything supported by volunteers only.
>>>> * Other options?
>>>>
>>>> How much money do we have for CHAOSScast?
>>>> $181.95 = we have $479.95 in the OpenCollective but spent $298 for
>>>> thank you cards in CommunityBridge.
>>>>
>>>> How much money would we need to raise to financially support the
>>>> podcast?
>>>> + Audio editing: $99/episode
>>>> + Show notes: $60/episode
>>>> + Hosting: $19/month
>>>> + Thank you notes: $6/episode (already paid for, except postage)
>>>> ————
>>>> = $679/month for 4 episodes per month
>>>> = $349/month for 2 episodes per month
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Georg
>>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Eric Berry <eric at berry.sh>
>>>> *Subject: **Rebase is shutting down on Sept 18*
>>>> *Date: *September 1, 2020 at 8:55:58 AM CDT
>>>> *To: *elizabeth at naramore.net, dylan at sociallyconstructed.online,
>>>> linkgeorg at gmail.com, matthewbbroberg at gmail.com, ariana.clark at gmail.com,
>>>> ben at bencodezen.io, elizabeth at fine.com, tessa at vuejs.nyc,
>>>> ron at astonspark.com, andrewmcodes at protonmail.com, nate at rebase.fm,
>>>> eric at rebase.fm, richard.littauer at gmail.com, gunner at aspirationtech.org,
>>>> pia at opencollective.com, justindorfman at gmail.com, jason at thecharnes.com,
>>>> excid3 at gmail.com, kevin at gitcoin.co, Paul Bahr <paul at peachtreesound.com>,
>>>> DeAnn Bahr <deann at peachtreesound.com>
>>>> *Reply-To: *eric at berry.sh
>>>>
>>>> Hello my friends!
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to let you know that as of Sept 18, Rebase will no longer be
>>>> able to financially or otherwise support your podcasts.
>>>>
>>>> As I mentioned to you all in the beginning, these podcasts are yours
>>>> respectively. If you would like to keep it running, please do so! Your show
>>>> is a part of Rebase because it provides value to the community, and would
>>>> continue to do so outside of Rebase.
>>>>
>>>> So where do we go from here?
>>>>
>>>> Right now, most shows are being hosted on Fireside.fm
>>>> <http://fireside.fm/>. If you want to keep using Fireside, we will
>>>> transfer the shows to your personal accounts. If we registered a domain for
>>>> your show, you can have it. Just let me know and I’ll transfer it to you.
>>>>
>>>> As for editing, Paul and DeAnn have graciously extended a REALLY good
>>>> deal on editing shows. Each show will cost $99 for editing. This price is
>>>> only if the raw recording is less than 1 hour. If the show goes over 1
>>>> hour, it’s an additional $50 per hour. Show notes will cost $60 per
>>>> episode. Paul and DeAnn spend between 4-5 hours to do both the editing and
>>>> show notes. If you would prefer to handle the editing on your own, please
>>>> do so. Some of your shows have funds in Open Collective. Please feel free
>>>> to use those funds to pay for editing. Paul can be reached at
>>>> paul at peachtreesound.com.
>>>>
>>>> On Sept 18, we will disable the following services:
>>>>
>>>> - Zoom
>>>> - Fireside.fm <http://fireside.fm/>
>>>> - Calendly
>>>> - Dropbox
>>>>
>>>> If you are interested in keeping your show beyond Sept 18, please make
>>>> sure you have everything set up prior.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you again for riding this roller coaster with us! I will be
>>>> available in the Rebase Discord server to discuss if you need me.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eric Berry
>>>> website <https://berry.sh/> • twitter <https://twitter.com/coderberry>
>>>>  • linkedin <https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericberry/> • podcasts
>>>> <https://rebase.fm/>
>>>> TZ: America/Denver
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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