[Chaoss-Board] How to continue CHAOSScast? [Fwd: Rebase is shutting down on Sept 18]

Andrea Gallo andrea.gallo at linaro.org
Thu Sep 10 10:06:14 UTC 2020


+1

Shall we also build a list of target external sponsors?

Andrea

On Wed, 9 Sep 2020, 23:45 Matt Germonprez, <germonprez at gmail.com> wrote:

> Including the stats is a good idea :)
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 4:44 PM Georg Link <linkgeorg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We could mention that episodes are downloaded about 40 times in the first
>> week; but I don’t want to highlight that unless we are asked.
>>
>> On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:37 PM, Georg Link <linkgeorg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks everyone for the feedback.
>>
>> To ask for sponsorship, here is an email draft to request funding.
>> Please let me know if you have other ideas for the sponsorship levels and
>> perks.
>>
>> *Subject: *CHAOSS is seeking funding for its podcast CHAOSScast
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As a valued CHAOSS community members, we want to ask for your help
>> finding funding for our community podcast CHAOSScast.
>>
>> The community goals for CHAOSScast are to elevate conversations about
>> open source community health metrics, analytics, and software. We are
>> sharing stories, experiences, and insights that are complementary to the
>> work we do on defining metrics and building software. CHAOSScast is an
>> outreach effort to introduce our work to others.
>>
>> We are now seeking funding because the podcast network that provided
>> financial support through selling sponsorship is shutting down.
>>
>> We are open to including a sponsor message in our episodes for anyone who
>> financially supports CHAOSScast.
>>
>> Sponsorship Level: $1,000
>> Perk: pre-roll sponsor message and mention in show notes for 4 episodes
>>
>> Sponsorship Level: $2,500
>> Perk: pre-roll and mid-roll sponsorship message and mention in show notes
>> for 12 episodes.
>>
>> Sponsorship Level: $5,000
>> Perk: pre-roll, mid-roll sponsorship message and mention in show notes
>> for 30 episodes.
>>
>> Sponsorship Level: $10,000
>> Perk: pre-roll, mid-roll, and end-roll sponsorship message and mention in
>> show notes for 50 episodes. Weekly thank-you message in our newsletter to
>> the CHOASS community. Logo display on our website chaoss.community.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:17 PM, Sean Goggins <s at goggins.com> wrote:
>>
>> +1
>>
>>
>> *Sean P. Goggins*Professor, Computer Science
>> University of Missouri
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>>
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>> health metrics) [Sloan Foundation]
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>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>> On Sep 8, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Daniel Izquierdo <
>> daniel.izquierdo.cortazar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> +1 to your proposal Georg with Matt's restrictions on top :).
>>
>> We may need to be more aggressive looking for sponsors and review this
>> perhaps after two episodes / 1 month.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Daniel.
>>
>>
>> El mar., 8 sept. 2020 a las 22:15, Matt Germonprez (<germonprez at gmail.com>)
>> escribió:
>>
>>> Hi Georg,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the follow-up on this.
>>>
>>> Yes, I think that we need to slow the cadence. The problem, even with
>>> what you propose, is that our current Community Bridge account would only
>>> fund this for two months. I'm hoping to address this but for now, this is
>>> where things are at. I would say, perhaps, one month under this model
>>> (funds to be approved by the finance team) and during that time, we pretty
>>> aggressively look for financial sponsorship for CHAOSScast.
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 2:59 PM Georg Link <linkgeorg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts on how to continue CHAOSScast without Rebase.fm
>>>> <http://rebase.fm/>'s services?
>>>>
>>>> I propose we do the following:
>>>> 1. Continue to use Firebase for hosting podcast ($19/month)
>>>> 2. Pay for audio editing ($99/episode).
>>>> 3. Pay for detailed show notes ($60/episode).
>>>> 4. Reduce release frequency to every other week to cut cost.
>>>> 5. Approach sponsors to secure funding for CHAOSScast.
>>>>
>>>> This will cost us $349/month for 2 episodes per month.
>>>>
>>>> I can lay out the expenses and request a refund through Community
>>>> Bridge.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Georg
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 4:24 PM Georg Link <linkgeorg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> TL/DR:
>>>>> I just got below message that Rebase will shut down and stop
>>>>> supporting CHAOSScast in two weeks.
>>>>> The good news is that we own CHAOSScast and will not lose anything.
>>>>> The bad news is that we need to find a new way to sustain the podcast.
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m informing you about this development so that we can find a
>>>>> solution together.
>>>>> Your thoughts are welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rebase provided the following key services:
>>>>> 1. Zoom room for recording
>>>>> 2. Audio editing
>>>>> 3. Show notes creation
>>>>> 4. Fireside account
>>>>> 5. Add revenue sharing
>>>>>
>>>>> I don’t know how we want to move forward yet but want to start the
>>>>> conversation with you all.
>>>>> Thinking about the services and what alternative options we have:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Zoom room for recording
>>>>> * Option 1: I hope we can cover this with the CHAOSS Zoom that we are
>>>>> getting.
>>>>> * Option 2: We use a different tool like Jitsi meet.
>>>>> * Other options?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Audio editing
>>>>> * Option 1: Hire Paul, who has done an amazing job so far: $99 per
>>>>> episode.
>>>>> * Option 2: Hire someone else.
>>>>> * Option 3: We find a volunteer in our community who does it for free
>>>>> and for the love of the project.
>>>>> * Other options?
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) Show notes creation
>>>>> * Option 1: Hire DeAnn for $60 per episode
>>>>> * Option 2: Hire someone else
>>>>> * Option 3: We find a volunteer in our community who does it for free
>>>>> and for the love of the project.
>>>>> * Option 4: Not have show notes
>>>>> * Other options?
>>>>>
>>>>> 4) Fireside account
>>>>> * Option 1: We take over the fireside account for $19/month
>>>>> * Option 2: We find a different way of hosting, e.g., WordPress plugin
>>>>> * Other options?
>>>>>
>>>>> 5) Add revenue sharing
>>>>> The add revenue was a key reason to work with CPN and Rebase because
>>>>> it financed the audio editing, show notes, and hosting while also giving us
>>>>> some money to use for thank you notes and possibly equipment.
>>>>> * Option 1: We find our own sponsors to pay for audio editing, show
>>>>> notes, and hosting.
>>>>> * Option 2: We do everything supported by volunteers only.
>>>>> * Other options?
>>>>>
>>>>> How much money do we have for CHAOSScast?
>>>>> $181.95 = we have $479.95 in the OpenCollective but spent $298 for
>>>>> thank you cards in CommunityBridge.
>>>>>
>>>>> How much money would we need to raise to financially support the
>>>>> podcast?
>>>>> + Audio editing: $99/episode
>>>>> + Show notes: $60/episode
>>>>> + Hosting: $19/month
>>>>> + Thank you notes: $6/episode (already paid for, except postage)
>>>>> ————
>>>>> = $679/month for 4 episodes per month
>>>>> = $349/month for 2 episodes per month
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Georg
>>>>>
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *Eric Berry <eric at berry.sh>
>>>>> *Subject: **Rebase is shutting down on Sept 18*
>>>>> *Date: *September 1, 2020 at 8:55:58 AM CDT
>>>>> *To: *elizabeth at naramore.net, dylan at sociallyconstructed.online,
>>>>> linkgeorg at gmail.com, matthewbbroberg at gmail.com, ariana.clark at gmail.com,
>>>>> ben at bencodezen.io, elizabeth at fine.com, tessa at vuejs.nyc,
>>>>> ron at astonspark.com, andrewmcodes at protonmail.com, nate at rebase.fm,
>>>>> eric at rebase.fm, richard.littauer at gmail.com, gunner at aspirationtech.org,
>>>>> pia at opencollective.com, justindorfman at gmail.com, jason at thecharnes.com,
>>>>> excid3 at gmail.com, kevin at gitcoin.co, Paul Bahr <paul at peachtreesound.com>,
>>>>> DeAnn Bahr <deann at peachtreesound.com>
>>>>> *Reply-To: *eric at berry.sh
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello my friends!
>>>>>
>>>>> I wanted to let you know that as of Sept 18, Rebase will no longer be
>>>>> able to financially or otherwise support your podcasts.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I mentioned to you all in the beginning, these podcasts are yours
>>>>> respectively. If you would like to keep it running, please do so! Your show
>>>>> is a part of Rebase because it provides value to the community, and would
>>>>> continue to do so outside of Rebase.
>>>>>
>>>>> So where do we go from here?
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now, most shows are being hosted on Fireside.fm
>>>>> <http://fireside.fm/>. If you want to keep using Fireside, we will
>>>>> transfer the shows to your personal accounts. If we registered a domain for
>>>>> your show, you can have it. Just let me know and I’ll transfer it to you.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for editing, Paul and DeAnn have graciously extended a REALLY good
>>>>> deal on editing shows. Each show will cost $99 for editing. This price is
>>>>> only if the raw recording is less than 1 hour. If the show goes over 1
>>>>> hour, it’s an additional $50 per hour. Show notes will cost $60 per
>>>>> episode. Paul and DeAnn spend between 4-5 hours to do both the editing and
>>>>> show notes. If you would prefer to handle the editing on your own, please
>>>>> do so. Some of your shows have funds in Open Collective. Please feel free
>>>>> to use those funds to pay for editing. Paul can be reached at
>>>>> paul at peachtreesound.com.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sept 18, we will disable the following services:
>>>>>
>>>>> - Zoom
>>>>> - Fireside.fm <http://fireside.fm/>
>>>>> - Calendly
>>>>> - Dropbox
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are interested in keeping your show beyond Sept 18, please make
>>>>> sure you have everything set up prior.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you again for riding this roller coaster with us! I will be
>>>>> available in the Rebase Discord server to discuss if you need me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric Berry
>>>>> website <https://berry.sh/> • twitter <https://twitter.com/coderberry>
>>>>>  • linkedin <https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericberry/> • podcasts
>>>>> <https://rebase.fm/>
>>>>> TZ: America/Denver
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Georg Link
>>>>> (he/him)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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