[Chaoss-Board] How to continue CHAOSScast? [Fwd: Rebase is shutting down on Sept 18]

Matt Germonprez germonprez at gmail.com
Thu Sep 17 18:05:31 UTC 2020


Thanks Georg,

I think this reads well.

Matt


On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 12:27 PM Georg Link <linkgeorg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks everyone for jumping in on the conversation. I love the ideas from
> Matt, Andrea, Venia, and Nicole!
>
> We discuss on Tuesday that the next step could be a blog post that we can
> share with others.
>
> Here's a draft, please let me know what you think of the blog post for
> CHAOSS.community:
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N6GBMdjBe230h7nWxV2Nk7p-9jV4AiBKxB2PQAx2nBw/edit#
>
> Best,
> Georg
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 11:21 AM Huesman, Nicole K <
> nicole.k.huesman at intel.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> First, I’ve really enjoyed the podcasts—it’s a great way to increase
>> visibility of the CHAOSS Project’s work, and to connect with folks across
>> the community.
>>
>>
>>
>> Second, I appreciate the issue, along with many of the suggestions that
>> Georg and Samantha put forth. A few thoughts: If I understand the
>> objectives of the podcast series as laid out above, in my experience, a
>> bi-weekly cadence is sufficient to achieve these objectives. Thumbs up on
>> using a free platform, as Samantha suggests, as well as aggressively
>> pursuing sponsorships as Matt suggests (seems very do-able given the
>> reasonable cost). Ad banners may also work, although I think we’ll need to
>> establish consistent criteria that aligns with the CHAOSS Project’s mission
>> and spirit, if we pursue this.
>>
>>
>>
>> My 2 cents. 😊
>>
>>
>>
>> *Nicole K. Huesman*
>>
>> Senior Marketing Manager
>>
>> Developer & Community Advocate
>>
>> Intel Architecture, Graphics & Software
>>
>> 503.807.5599
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CHAOSS-members <chaoss-members-bounces at lists.linuxfoundation.org>
>> *On Behalf Of *Samantha Logan
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2020 8:36 PM
>> *To:* Matt Germonprez <germonprez at gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* CHAOSS Members <chaoss-members at lists.linuxfoundation.org>;
>> podcast at chaoss.community
>> *Subject:* Re: [Chaoss-Board] How to continue CHAOSScast? [Fwd: Rebase
>> is shutting down on Sept 18]
>>
>>
>>
>> Honestly this is not my strength so I'm not sure what advice I can
>> realistically offer.
>>
>>
>>
>> *That said, here are a few options I brainstormed but didn't spend too
>> much time on. truth be told there are big problems with them all: *
>>
>>    1. Offering advanced advertising options in or around show notes like
>>    banners and graphics as optional choices for guests to plug something
>>    2. Offering the ad spot for unsponsored podcasts to the guests to
>>    plug something related to but not about the content being discussed
>>    3. Switching the podcasts to visual podcasts and launching them on
>>    youtube for ad revenue
>>    4. Splintering content from the podcasts to other media and selling
>>    them as products
>>
>>
>>    1. An example is like the OS community analytics handbook composed of
>>       all the podcast's great ideas.
>>
>>
>>    1. Using youtube's auto-scripting features to produce the show notes
>>    to save on money.
>>    2. record the show using google hangouts instead of zoom (not sure if
>>    zoom is costing but a free platform might help?).
>>
>>
>>
>> to be honest, I don't tink I'm being helpful, but on the off chance I am,
>> this is what I got XD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Samantha Venia Logan
>>
>> Co-Founder of SociallyConstructed.Online
>>
>> 307-274-5516  | samantha at SociallyConstructed.Online
>>
>> 6715 Autumn Ridge Dr. Unit 2, Fort Collins CO., 80525
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 2:15 PM Matt Germonprez <germonprez at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Georg,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the follow-up on this.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, I think that we need to slow the cadence. The problem, even with
>> what you propose, is that our current Community Bridge account would only
>> fund this for two months. I'm hoping to address this but for now, this is
>> where things are at. I would say, perhaps, one month under this model
>> (funds to be approved by the finance team) and during that time, we pretty
>> aggressively look for financial sponsorship for CHAOSScast.
>>
>>
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 2:59 PM Georg Link <linkgeorg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts on how to continue CHAOSScast without Rebase.fm's services?
>>
>>
>>
>> I propose we do the following:
>>
>> 1. Continue to use Firebase for hosting podcast ($19/month)
>>
>> 2. Pay for audio editing ($99/episode).
>>
>> 3. Pay for detailed show notes ($60/episode).
>>
>> 4. Reduce release frequency to every other week to cut cost.
>>
>> 5. Approach sponsors to secure funding for CHAOSScast.
>>
>>
>>
>> This will cost us $349/month for 2 episodes per month.
>>
>>
>>
>> I can lay out the expenses and request a refund through Community Bridge.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Georg
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 4:24 PM Georg Link <linkgeorg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> TL/DR:
>>
>> I just got below message that Rebase will shut down and stop supporting
>> CHAOSScast in two weeks.
>>
>> The good news is that we own CHAOSScast and will not lose anything.
>>
>> The bad news is that we need to find a new way to sustain the podcast.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m informing you about this development so that we can find a solution
>> together.
>>
>> Your thoughts are welcome.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rebase provided the following key services:
>>
>> 1. Zoom room for recording
>>
>> 2. Audio editing
>>
>> 3. Show notes creation
>>
>> 4. Fireside account
>>
>> 5. Add revenue sharing
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t know how we want to move forward yet but want to start the
>> conversation with you all.
>>
>> Thinking about the services and what alternative options we have:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1) Zoom room for recording
>>
>> * Option 1: I hope we can cover this with the CHAOSS Zoom that we are
>> getting.
>>
>> * Option 2: We use a different tool like Jitsi meet.
>>
>> * Other options?
>>
>>
>>
>> 2) Audio editing
>>
>> * Option 1: Hire Paul, who has done an amazing job so far: $99 per
>> episode.
>>
>> * Option 2: Hire someone else.
>>
>> * Option 3: We find a volunteer in our community who does it for free and
>> for the love of the project.
>>
>> * Other options?
>>
>>
>>
>> 3) Show notes creation
>>
>> * Option 1: Hire DeAnn for $60 per episode
>>
>> * Option 2: Hire someone else
>>
>> * Option 3: We find a volunteer in our community who does it for free and
>> for the love of the project.
>>
>> * Option 4: Not have show notes
>>
>> * Other options?
>>
>>
>>
>> 4) Fireside account
>>
>> * Option 1: We take over the fireside account for $19/month
>>
>> * Option 2: We find a different way of hosting, e.g., WordPress plugin
>>
>> * Other options?
>>
>>
>>
>> 5) Add revenue sharing
>>
>> The add revenue was a key reason to work with CPN and Rebase because it
>> financed the audio editing, show notes, and hosting while also giving us
>> some money to use for thank you notes and possibly equipment.
>>
>> * Option 1: We find our own sponsors to pay for audio editing, show
>> notes, and hosting.
>>
>> * Option 2: We do everything supported by volunteers only.
>>
>> * Other options?
>>
>>
>>
>> How much money do we have for CHAOSScast?
>>
>> $181.95 = we have $479.95 in the OpenCollective but spent $298 for thank
>> you cards in CommunityBridge.
>>
>>
>>
>> How much money would we need to raise to financially support the podcast?
>>
>> + Audio editing: $99/episode
>>
>> + Show notes: $60/episode
>>
>> + Hosting: $19/month
>>
>> + Thank you notes: $6/episode (already paid for, except postage)
>>
>> ————
>>
>> = $679/month for 4 episodes per month
>>
>> = $349/month for 2 episodes per month
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Georg
>>
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Eric Berry <eric at berry.sh>
>>
>> *Subject: **Rebase is shutting down on Sept 18*
>>
>> *Date: *September 1, 2020 at 8:55:58 AM CDT
>>
>> *To: *elizabeth at naramore.net, dylan at sociallyconstructed.online,
>> linkgeorg at gmail.com, matthewbbroberg at gmail.com, ariana.clark at gmail.com,
>> ben at bencodezen.io, elizabeth at fine.com, tessa at vuejs.nyc,
>> ron at astonspark.com, andrewmcodes at protonmail.com, nate at rebase.fm,
>> eric at rebase.fm, richard.littauer at gmail.com, gunner at aspirationtech.org,
>> pia at opencollective.com, justindorfman at gmail.com, jason at thecharnes.com,
>> excid3 at gmail.com, kevin at gitcoin.co, Paul Bahr <paul at peachtreesound.com>,
>> DeAnn Bahr <deann at peachtreesound.com>
>>
>> *Reply-To: *eric at berry.sh
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello my friends!
>>
>>
>>
>> I wanted to let you know that as of Sept 18, Rebase will no longer be
>> able to financially or otherwise support your podcasts.
>>
>>
>>
>> As I mentioned to you all in the beginning, these podcasts are yours
>> respectively. If you would like to keep it running, please do so! Your show
>> is a part of Rebase because it provides value to the community, and would
>> continue to do so outside of Rebase.
>>
>>
>>
>> So where do we go from here?
>>
>>
>>
>> Right now, most shows are being hosted on Fireside.fm
>> <http://fireside.fm/>. If you want to keep using Fireside, we will
>> transfer the shows to your personal accounts. If we registered a domain for
>> your show, you can have it. Just let me know and I’ll transfer it to you.
>>
>>
>>
>> As for editing, Paul and DeAnn have graciously extended a REALLY good
>> deal on editing shows. Each show will cost $99 for editing. This price is
>> only if the raw recording is less than 1 hour. If the show goes over 1
>> hour, it’s an additional $50 per hour. Show notes will cost $60 per
>> episode. Paul and DeAnn spend between 4-5 hours to do both the editing and
>> show notes. If you would prefer to handle the editing on your own, please
>> do so. Some of your shows have funds in Open Collective. Please feel free
>> to use those funds to pay for editing. Paul can be reached at
>> paul at peachtreesound.com.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sept 18, we will disable the following services:
>>
>>
>>
>> - Zoom
>>
>> - Fireside.fm <http://fireside.fm/>
>>
>> - Calendly
>>
>> - Dropbox
>>
>>
>>
>> If you are interested in keeping your show beyond Sept 18, please make
>> sure you have everything set up prior.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you again for riding this roller coaster with us! I will be
>> available in the Rebase Discord server to discuss if you need me.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Eric Berry*
>>
>> website <https://berry.sh/> • twitter <https://twitter.com/coderberry> •
>> linkedin <https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericberry/> • podcasts
>> <https://rebase.fm/>
>>
>> TZ: America/Denver
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Georg Link
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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