[Chaoss-Board] CHAOSS to partner with other projects like the TODO Group?

[Daniel Izquierdo]

Yep! I'd love to see CHAOSS engagement with other communities :).

Cheers,
Daniel.

El mié., 22 sept. 2021 22:13, Georg Link <linkgeorg at gmail.com> escribió:

> Thanks Matt, Sean, Amy, and Daniel for sharing your thoughts!
>
> I too would like to see this and other partnerships going both ways with
> mutual benefit to both groups.
>
> I'm happy to make introductions with Ana to discuss opportunities to work
> together.
> @Sean, I'll create an email with you since you asked for the introduction.
>
> Georg
>
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 6:57 AM Sean P. Goggins <s at goggins.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Daniel:
>>
>> These are great suggestions. I think we can handle things like the
>> Risk/Augur presentations, which are highly relevant and attributed, in a
>> similar manner to Georg's presentations. As we move forward, we do need to
>> maintain awareness of the evolving priorities and brands of each group. For
>> the moment, we have two things that are right on the mark of initiating the
>> partnership, and we should go with that, I think.
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>>
>> "It may be that openness is a bad choice for communities, but it's a
>> great choice for groups that want to span, not colonize. Span, not
>> colonize. Include, not exclude. Learn from, not teach at."
>>
>> -- Steve Sawyer <https://www.facebook.com/stevenbsawyer?fref=mentions>
>>  with Tony Salvador
>> <https://www.facebook.com/tony.salvador.3990?fref=mentions>
>>
>> "The most effective way to do it, is to do it."
>> -- Amelia Earhart
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 4:45 PM Daniel Izquierdo <
>> daniel.izquierdo.cortazar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> Thanks Georg for opening this thread.  I think it's worth having this
>>> conversation at the board meeting and here open for discussion in the
>>> meantime.
>>>
>>> Going to the point: there are some things we should take care of and the
>>> brand is one of them. In this case this is a close and friend community we
>>> all know, but even though my suggestion is we should foster good practices
>>> when  using the CHAOSS brand.
>>>
>>> If CHAOSS is partnering with any other community and both parties agree,
>>> there should be some marketing actions involved, strategy in place (why are
>>> we doing this in CHAOSS?) and potential reporting back.
>>>
>>> Let's go to the other extreme: What would we do if people start using
>>> the CHAOSS brand without proper attribution or not according to CHAOSS
>>> community expectations? This is the issue I see. And we've had on the table
>>> a similar issue of others using CHAOSS technology and not properly
>>> attributing its authors in the past. This is a serious thing  to have in
>>> mind.
>>>
>>> The second topic I'd like to see when partnering with others is
>>> reciprocity. If the CHAOSS community is open, welcoming, transparent, and
>>> this allows anyone to participate with no wall in between.  I'd like to ask
>>> our partners to behave in a similar way, being transparent, welcoming to
>>> anyone, and well, if possible be like the CHAOSS community.
>>>
>>> If this sounds kind of reasonable, and we are interested in building the
>>> CHAOSS ecosystem, then we may need to work on what an engagement with
>>> others communities mean for us, have this written down,  and then proceed
>>> accordingly :).
>>>
>>> What do you think? Does this rationale make sense?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Daniel.
>>>
>>>
>>> El mar., 21 sept. 2021 22:53, Sean Goggins <s at goggins.com> escribió:
>>>
>>>> Hi Georg,
>>>>
>>>> This is a great idea, and I think we should be enthusiastic to be
>>>> involved. I’m sure the TODO Group would be quite interested in the work of
>>>> the Risk Working Group, and the new dependency analysis capabilities our
>>>> GSoC students built into Augur this summer.
>>>>
>>>> Introductions welcome!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Sean
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 21, 2021, at 11:58 AM, Georg Link <linkgeorg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi CHAOSS Board Members,
>>>>
>>>> Last week, I spoke with Ana Jimenez, the TODO Group Program Manager.
>>>> She is opening up the TODO Group to be more inclusive and working with
>>>> partners. I have the impression that the TODO Group has come a long way
>>>> from its start as a closed mailing list.
>>>>
>>>> I have agreed to be a speaker at the TODO Group's OSPOlogy series of
>>>> webinars, to talk about metrics for OSPOs. Also, for the session with
>>>> Stephen Jacobs, I agreed to do the introduction as a representative of
>>>> CHAOSS since the OPEN at RIT's Mystic project builds on CHAOSS
>>>> GrimoireLab tools.
>>>>
>>>> I just learned that CHAOSS is now listed as a partner of the TODO Group:
>>>> https://community.linuxfoundation.org/todo-group/
>>>>
>>>> I'm approaching you all since you are the stewards of the CHAOSS
>>>> Project and its brand. To my knowledge, we don't have a formal process for
>>>> a decision to become partners.
>>>>
>>>> My personal opinion is that we should connect with other projects,
>>>> including the TODO Group, and work together on topics that are core to
>>>> CHAOSS's mission. Whether that results in a recognized partnership is a
>>>> discussion for the governing board.
>>>>
>>>> My understanding is that a TODO Group partnership means we get invited
>>>> when topics around metrics or project health are on the agenda.
>>>>
>>>> It would be great to discuss as a CHAOSS Governing Board, whether we
>>>> want to be TODO Group partners and whether we want to establish guidelines
>>>> around becoming partners with other projects.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Georg
>>>>
>>>> PS: As you are composing your thoughts on the topic, please note that
>>>> this Governing Board mailing list has a public archive, so if you have a
>>>> private thought, please send it directly to board members' email addresses.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Georg Link, PhD
>>>> (he/him)
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