[Chaoss-software] [Oss-health-metrics] [CoC working group] Invite to Code of Conduct working group

[Sean Goggins]

Hi All:

I agree in general with the principle of keeping statements positive. I do not know, however, if “staying positive” is an act of not acknowledging the most common unacceptable behaviors experienced historically in open source software projects.  

I do not have answers, just a question.  GitHub is using 2 different terms of services templates now, and these may be worth considering. 

One is the contributor covenant: 

https://www.contributor-covenant.org/version/1/4/code-of-conduct.html <https://www.contributor-covenant.org/version/1/4/code-of-conduct.html>

The other is the citizen code of conduct:

http://citizencodeofconduct.org/ <http://citizencodeofconduct.org/>

Both enumerate historically unacceptable behaviors.  

My opinion is that GitHub is working hard to set the standard for inclusivity in open source projects by making these code of conduct templates available for all their projects now.  

I ask that we consider the possibility that explicitly noting historically problematic behaviors might be viewed positively by folks who have had to deal with them. 

Thanks!

Sean 

> On Nov 15, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Raymond Paik <rpaik at linuxfoundation.org <mailto:rpaik at linuxfoundation.org>> wrote:
> 
> Thanks that makes sense and agree :-)
> 
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 5:26 AM, Georg Link <glink at unomaha.edu <mailto:glink at unomaha.edu>> wrote:
> Thanks, Ray and Jesus. I have nothing to add. 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 3:02 AM, Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona <jgb at bitergia.com <mailto:jgb at bitergia.com>> wrote:
> On Tue, 2017-11-14 at 21:48 -0800, Raymond Paik wrote:
> > Thanks Georg....  Sorry I could not be at the meeting.
> >
> > A clarifying question on one of the items.  When you say "digital", I
> > assume that means the CoC not only cover behaviors at in-person
> > events/events (in physical spaces), but also behaviors online (e-
> > mail, conference calls, etc.)?
> 
> Yes. In fact, that "digital behaviour" is more important for us that
> "in-place", since the former would be far more frequent.
> 
> This comes in part from the fact that, due maybe to historical reasons,
> some CoC could seem designed for in-place situations, with only some
> mentions or "extensions" for digital situations.
> 
>         Jesus
> 
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