[Chaoss-software] [Oss-health-metrics] [CoC working group] Invite to Code of Conduct working group

Raymond Paik rpaik at linuxfoundation.org
Wed Nov 15 18:56:16 UTC 2017


OpenStack takes a similar approach.  It's mostly aspirational, but also
lists unacceptable behaviors.

See: https://www.openstack.org/legal/community-code-of-conduct/

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Sean Goggins <s at goggins.com> wrote:

> Hi All:
>
> I agree in general with the principle of keeping statements positive. I do
> not know, however, if “staying positive” is an act of not acknowledging the
> most common unacceptable behaviors experienced historically in open source
> software projects.
>
> I do not have answers, just a question.  GitHub is using 2 different terms
> of services templates now, and these may be worth considering.
>
> One is the contributor covenant:
>
> https://www.contributor-covenant.org/version/1/4/code-of-conduct.html
>
> The other is the citizen code of conduct:
>
> http://citizencodeofconduct.org/
>
> Both enumerate historically unacceptable behaviors.
>
> My opinion is that GitHub is working hard to set the standard for
> inclusivity in open source projects by making these code of conduct
> templates available for all their projects now.
>
> I ask that we consider the possibility that explicitly noting historically
> problematic behaviors might be viewed positively by folks who have had to
> deal with them.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Sean
>
> On Nov 15, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Raymond Paik <rpaik at linuxfoundation.org>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks that makes sense and agree :-)
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 5:26 AM, Georg Link <glink at unomaha.edu> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Ray and Jesus. I have nothing to add.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 3:02 AM, Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona <
>> jgb at bitergia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 2017-11-14 at 21:48 -0800, Raymond Paik wrote:
>>> > Thanks Georg....  Sorry I could not be at the meeting.
>>> >
>>> > A clarifying question on one of the items.  When you say "digital", I
>>> > assume that means the CoC not only cover behaviors at in-person
>>> > events/events (in physical spaces), but also behaviors online (e-
>>> > mail, conference calls, etc.)?
>>>
>>> Yes. In fact, that "digital behaviour" is more important for us that
>>> "in-place", since the former would be far more frequent.
>>>
>>> This comes in part from the fact that, due maybe to historical reasons,
>>> some CoC could seem designed for in-place situations, with only some
>>> mentions or "extensions" for digital situations.
>>>
>>>         Jesus
>>>
>>
>>
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