[Chaoss-software] [Meeting item] Future events where we plan to participate

[Sean Goggins]

Hi All, 

I appreciate Jesus’s shaping of our groups discourse. And also Daniel’s observation that “chaoss” has nothing to show. And Jesus’s subsequent observation that we have 3 projects, including his and Daniel’s, in the CHAOSS GitHub Repo.  

A few items from my point of view:
1. Making metrics visible and useful is more than loading software in a repo and continuing to invest. We need a conceptual roadmap articulated.  
2. Before we do that I think we try a few things.  I like the metrics committees idea of putting together 3-7 “activity metrics” in the various implementations of CHAOSS. 
3. Having a common place to discuss what different metrics mean and then operationalizing them in software against projects with different structures and social technologies will enable the advancement of metrics with greater potential. I think getting that conversation started is an accomplishment. Keeping it going and engaging developers in the work of software construction around those metrics is an additional challenge. 

The metrics committee gives us a chance to listen to metrics consumers before we build software. Related to that effort, The more nascent ghdata project focuses on building out examples of metrics using principles derived from human centered design and social computing research. I’ll say more about that in a separate message. 

Sean P. Goggins
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On Oct 18, 2017, at 05:46, Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona <jgb at bitergia.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 2017-10-17 at 21:14 -0700, dmg wrote:
> I think there are two types of events:
> 
> 1. To promote the project
> 
> 2. To work on the project.
> 
> so perhaps we should also think if there is a way we can have a
> "workshop" where we can discuss what we need to do (type 2 above).
> 
> I think the main challenge at this point is that chaOSS does not have
> anything to show. so i don't see much point of going around
> advertising the brand.

Well, in the software committee we have cregit, GrimoireLab and
Prospector ;-) In the Metrics TC they have many metrics with
definitions (and in some cases implementations), and a process for
defining them. All of those deserves to be made as much public as
possible, I think...

In any case, I agree with the second. Maybe some of the Linux
Foundation events could be a good opportunity for that, since some of
us may go there. But the problem would be ensuring a critical mass of
people (at least from the point of view of the Software TC) attending.

Saludos,

   Jesus.

> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona <jgb at bite
> rgia.com> wrote:
>> * Item
>> 
>> We all participate in academic, developers' and industrial events.
>> It would be nice to know where we could present CHAOSS during the
>> following months. Also, if we should schedule specific events (like
>> a
>> monthly virtual meeting, for example), for activities related to
>> our
>> projects.
>> 
>> * Discussion
>> 
>> This is the list of what I'm aware of:
>> 
>> * CHAOSS presentation at the OSS NA. That happened in September,
>> and I
>> guess you already got some info about it.
>> 
>> * CHAOSS presentation at the OSS EU. This is next week, and we will
>> have a room, and a program which includes a general presentation of
>> CHAOSS, of the Metrics & Software TCs, and some time specifically
>> devoted to cregit, Prospector, and GrimoireLab. A part of the time
>> is
>> allocated for the Diversity and Inclusion "task force".
>> 
>> * The day before FOSDEM (next year that's Feb. 2nd 2018) we
>> traditionally have GrimoireCon. This year we propose to convert it
>> into
>> CHAOSSCon/GrimoireCon, with a part of the event (likely the
>> afternoon)
>> devoted to "CHAOSS & friends". If you agree with the idea, please
>> let
>> us know, and if you want to collaborate somehow (delivering a talk,
>> helping with the organization, whatever), let's find a way to
>> cooperate.
>> 
>> Any other venues / ideas?
>> 
>> Saludos,
>> 
>>        Jesus
>> 
>> 
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