[CHAOSS] Opening discussion on using Discourse Forum for CHAOSS

Jocelyn Matthews jocelyn at storj.io
Mon Nov 12 03:35:13 UTC 2018


I totally agree about chats vs forum, especially for tihs use case. rm
I've been told that RocketChat also offers a forum-type solution, but i
havent been able to find out much about it.
I do hear consistently good things about Discourse however


On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 6:04 PM Georg Link <glink at unomaha.edu> wrote:

> Thanks for the initial responses.
>
> @Daniel: I agree with your requirement that "archives can be browsed
> without any further credentials". Mailinglist archives cannot be navigated
> by topic, but Discourse can, making it more accessible.
>
> @Jocelyn: I liken Rocket Chat to a chat program (IRC or Slack) and
> Discourse to a forum (phpBB). I personally prefer the organization of
> conversations within Discourse and have a hard time keeping up with chats.
>
> @Emma: I agree with your assessment regarding Accessibility and Open by
> Design. I would appreciate if you can make the connection to someone who is
> more experienced with Discourse.
>
>
> The conversation continues. I invite your to share your opinion.
>
> Best,
> Georg
>
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 4:38 PM, Emma Irwin <eirwin at mozilla.com> wrote:
>
>> I Georg,
>>
>> Thanks for raising this question. When I think of communication,* I
>> think less of what the majority prefers, but more of what will bring more
>> voices, and contributors. * Assuming that is a shared goal across all of
>> CHAOSS, this good chance to put into practice our the principles of
>> inclusion this project is leading in open source through the D&I working
>> group.
>>
>> I'm currently organizing my thoughts this way:
>>
>> 1) *Accessibility* - from a usability standpoint, but also for
>> non-native English speakers, and those with bandwidth, or limited access to
>> technology, screen readers)
>> 2) *Open by Design*  - can people easily find (including lurking), read
>> and contribute to discussion? Are we aware of topics or discussion that
>> might require 'safe spaces' , where those topics might result in trolling?
>> Can community members co-create discussion experiences (i.e. flagging
>> inappropriate content )
>>
>>
>> *For Accessibility, some measurements might be:*
>>
>>    - Ease of translation for non-English Speakers
>>    - Accessibility review including screenreaders
>>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.comprend.com_blog_2017_test-2Dyour-2Dwebsites-2Daccessibility_&d=DwMFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=P2SSJg6nDRqSw6MK6ZVW76NaDtv69G3wvyOnOxwzqv0&m=Km5fyjVbgpJSRs3IXbaHGzbr4LZ-ATCMnOYKHzOBfu0&s=VMjmBKOxNFEMthk-OYvYMDSbSZXb3-xshKH8Lu0r-KY&e=>
>>
>>
>> *For Open by Design*
>>
>>    - Ability to read archives without logging in (allows people to lurk
>>    and access the community, for various reasons )
>>    - Ability to provide secure channels for sensitive discussions, or
>>    those that might put an individual at risk (happy to explain (off-list)
>>    scenarios offline, about why underrepresented people don't engage in open
>>    source forums on specific topics for fear of trolling/threats).
>>    - Strong Moderation tools
>>    - Acceptance to our Code of Conduct as part of joining/posting .
>>
>>
>> Discourse sends email, that functionality is provided by both.   We've
>> been using Discourse at Mozilla for a while now, being intentional about
>> centralizing communication channels with Discourse has been very positive.
>> And I can  introduce you to someone who can share more detail benefits, and
>> challenges of that work (instead of learning on our own ).
>>
>> My preference is for Discourse knowing it does better in the categories
>> I've listed.  Also personal peeve, I hate 'trying to find the right mailing
>> list'.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 8:53 AM Georg Link <glink at unomaha.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi CHAOSS community,
>>>
>>> I invite you to discuss whether we should start using Discourse and, if
>>> so, how we want to go about it.
>>>
>>> Background: The CHAOSS project is evolving and over the last 1.5 years,
>>> we created new mailing lists and abandoned others. We also use GitHub
>>> repositories and weekly calls on different days to separate out
>>> conversations. From the beginning, we discussed using a flexible forum
>>> software, like Discourse, to satisfy our evolving communication needs. In
>>> the past, we opted for simplicity but are now hitting the limits.
>>>
>>> Discourse agreed to sponsor free hosting for us:
>>> https://discourse.chaoss.community/
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__discourse.chaoss.community_&d=DwMFaQ&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=P2SSJg6nDRqSw6MK6ZVW76NaDtv69G3wvyOnOxwzqv0&m=Km5fyjVbgpJSRs3IXbaHGzbr4LZ-ATCMnOYKHzOBfu0&s=51F6ZVg_UglxniGGCu86Y3bV-MsPGZfHYEcrlwKx3xY&e=>
>>>
>>> On this week's call, a question was asked about email-compatability of
>>> Discourse: Everyone can watch topics on discourse and receive email
>>> notifications. Responses can be sent via email.
>>>
>>> One concern with using Discourse is that we divide the community across
>>> more communication channels. The question is, what is the overall
>>> communication strategy within our community? What role does each
>>> communication channel (mailing list, IRC, GitHub, Discourse, weekly calls)
>>> have?
>>>
>>> I open the discussion with my opinion:
>>> Discourse allows us to create new categories (like email lists), use
>>> tags, and have an organically evolving structure while maintaining all
>>> benefits of mailing lists. I think we can transition from email lists to
>>> Discourse.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Georg
>>>
>>> --
>>> Georg J.P. Link
>>> PhD Candidate
>>> College of Information Science and Technology | PKI 367
>>> University of Nebraska at Omaha | www.unomaha.edu
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>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Emma Irwin (she/her)
>> Community Development
>> Open Innovation Team
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Georg J.P. Link
> PhD Candidate
> College of Information Science and Technology | PKI 367
> University of Nebraska at Omaha | www.unomaha.edu
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