call_usermodehelper in containers

Kamezawa Hiroyuki kamezawa.hiroyu at
Thu Feb 18 03:43:31 UTC 2016

On 2016/02/18 11:57, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Ccing The containers list because a related discussion is happening there
> and somehow this thread has never made it there.
> Ian Kent <raven at> writes:
>> On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 18:28 +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>>> On 11/15, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>>> I don't understand that one.  Having a preforked thread with the
>>>> proper
>>>> environment that can act like kthreadd in terms of spawning user
>>>> mode
>>>> helpers works and is simple.
>> Forgive me replying to such an old thread but ...
>> After realizing workqueues can't be used to pre-create threads to run
>> usermode helpers I've returned to look at this.
> If someone can wind up with a good implementation I will be happy.
>>> Can't we ask ->child_reaper to create the non-daemonized kernel thread
>>> with the "right" ->nsproxy, ->fs, etc?
>> Eric, do you think this approach would be sufficient too?
>> Probably wouldn't be quite right for user namespaces but should provide
>> what's needed for other cases?
>> It certainly has the advantage of not having to maintain a plague of
>> processes waiting around to execute helpers.
> That certainly sounds attractive.  Especially for the case of everyone
> who wants to set a core pattern in a container.
> I am fuzzy on all of the details right now, but what I do remember is
> that in the kernel the user mode helper concepts when they attempted to
> scrub a processes environment were quite error prone until we managed to
> get kthreadd(pid 2) on the scene which always had a clean environment.
> If we are going to tie this kind of thing to the pid namespace I
> recommend simplying denying it if you are in a user namespace without
> an approrpriate pid namespace.  AKA simply not allowing thigns to be setup
> if current->pid_ns->user_ns != current->user_ns.
Can't be handled by simple capability like CAP_SYS_USERMODEHELPER ?

User_ns check seems not to allow core-dump-cather in host will not work if user_ns is used.


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