[Lf_desktop] Re: [Desktop_architects] OOXML - national bodies voting

John Walicki walicki at us.ibm.com
Mon Aug 27 11:00:58 PDT 2007

lf_desktop-bounces at lists.linux-foundation.org wrote on 08/27/2007 11:31:59 

> The quotes page is now a public wiki...although nobody knows about it
> yet.
> https://www.linux-foundation.org/en/Architects_on_OOXML
> I'll continue to update the page as quotes come in.  This is yet another
> chance for you to receive fame, glory, and a chance to be heard.
> Cheers,
> John

John - Here is the IBM quote.

IBM is a strong supporter of open standards because they allow for fair 
competition among market players based on the creation and the 
implementation of the standards and do not allow one party to control the 
standard and therefore the marketplace.    The ODF standard can be 
implemented and used by anyone on any platform, at any time, and no 
license or fee is required. This provides consumers with complete control 
and ownership of their documents, forever. ODF is truly open with 
contributions from dozens of companies. Changes to ODF will likewise be 
determined by the community. ODF provides a format that will be available 
to all without any specific company or companies controlling its fate or 

We are very concerned about many aspects of the ooXML specification that 
is currently under ballot in ISO/IEC JTC1 including many technical issues 
concerning the quality of the specification.

- It is unclear whether all vendors will be able to implement a fully 
compliant version of the ooXML specification. The specification references 
other specifications which are not publicly available and for which the 
Intellectual Property Rights are unknown. 
- The ooXML specification conflicts with many other International 
Standards (Language Codes, Paper Sizes, Colour codes, etc.) by 
implementing its own specific codes. 
- The ooXML specification defines capabilities (e.g. Mathematical 
Formulas, Vector Graphics) instead of simply referring to W3C 
specifications, which are internationally accepted and widely used. 
- The ooXML specifications rely on Windows specific capabilities. Document 
exchange with other operating systems is not guaranteed. An International 
Standard should be technology neutral. 

John Walicki, IBM Open Client Architect

> On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 23:05 -0700, John Cherry wrote:
> > Those of us at the Linux Foundation are working to reject Microsoft's
> > bid to win ISO ratification for their DIS 29500 (OOXML) specification
> > for office document file formats. The world already has an ISO 
> > for this problem and it's ODF or ISO 26300. The JTC1 5 month ballot
> > period closes September 2nd.
> > 
> > With September 2nd looming, the Linux Foundation is going to come out
> > with a "formal" statement on Tuesday.  I realize that there have been
> > document format wars raging in the blogs and the press for months, but 
> > thought it would be a nice touch to the LF position statement if we
> > could augment the statement with comments from the community of 
> > architects (you guys).
> > 
> > I am constructing a "quotes page" for specific comments from the 
> > architects.  I will either pick these quotes up from the list here or
> > you can send them to me directly.  If you post a short position
> > statement of your own, there is a possibility that we will use it in 
> > LF position statement as well, so please don't send anything to me 
> > you don't want to have quoted.  All quotes on the "quotes page" must 
> > attributed to somebody (nothing anonymous).
> > 
> > Please keep your comments short (three or four concise sentences). The
> > objective is not to argue the case, but to publish the views of a
> > variety of _heavyweights_ in the desktop development community.
> > 
> > Sorry for the short notice, but the LF announcement will be going out 
> > Tuesday evening, so we have about 48 hours to put this thing together.
> > 
> > John
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