[Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Kernel tinification: shrinking the kernel and avoiding size regressions
Dave Jones
davej at redhat.com
Fri May 2 21:01:23 UTC 2014
On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 04:41:41PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> And I think we can also further break this down into the classes of
> code which require root privs (i.e., like kexec), and those which can
> be used by any userid.
In the brave new world of secure boot, we kind of have to care about
even the root cases now too [*], but I agree in the general case.
> So perhaps what that means it that _these_ are the features which
> require the most amount of paranoia and testing before we let them
> into the mainline kernel in the first place. Otherwise, once they get
> in, there's always a chance that systemd or some other piece of
> userspace will strict strictly requiring said optional feature, and it
> doesn't matter whether we put in a CONFIG option to disable the
> feature --- we'll never be able to do it.
This is starting to tread into the other thread about userspace
mandating 'optional' facilities, but is that even a problem, given
the proliferation of init's (taking the systemd example).
Yes, systemd "won" by now being the default in all the general purpose
distributions, but with my upstream hat on, I think we still care
about embedded systems etc that don't need anywhere near the
functionality that systemd provides.
Dave
[*] oh god, ioctl.
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