[Lightning-dev] Lightning and the semantic web

[Melvin Carvalho]

On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 at 14:11, René Pickhardt <r.pickhardt at googlemail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Melvin,
>
> have you looked into the W3C Payment Group?
> https://www.w3.org/TR/payment-request/ The entire field of semantic web
> kind of originated from W3C and they are working on a recommendation for
> browser vendors to enable a low level payment API.
>
> Also there is LightningJoule that builds on top of webln. While this is
> not an otology it goes implicitly in a similar direction (c.f.:
> https://github.com/wbobeirne/webln and in particular this discussion:
> https://github.com/wbobeirne/webln/issues/1 in which Will said that in
> his thoughts webln is different to the W3C Payment Group.)
>
> I am looking forward to see your progress with integrating Lightning to
> the semantic web!
>
> with kind regards Rene
>

My first observation is these two data structures in lnd describe graph,
one for channels and one for nodes.  These seem to be two fundamental
concepts in lightning.

Channel

        {
            "channel_id": "615605565348708353",
            "chan_point":
"d8cfed73e0004fe1427d3045c5b20da0418f3cb803e8e35be48ee713aadbf56d:1",
            "last_update": 1548330355,
            "node1_pub":
"024a2e265cd66066b78a788ae615acdc84b5b0dec9efac36d7ac87513015eaf6ed",
            "node2_pub":
"03e03c56bb540c36b9e77c2aea2bb6529b907ece6c1395228c05459af13d0e2a5c",
            "capacity": "1000000",
            "node1_policy": {
                "time_lock_delta": 144,
                "min_htlc": "1000",
                "fee_base_msat": "1000",
                "fee_rate_milli_msat": "1",
                "disabled": false
            },
            "node2_policy": {
                "time_lock_delta": 144,
                "min_htlc": "1000",
                "fee_base_msat": "1000",
                "fee_rate_milli_msat": "1",
                "disabled": false
            }
        }

Node

        {
            "last_update": 1547380072,
            "pub_key":
"0200072fd301cb4a680f26d87c28b705ccd6a1d5b00f1b5efd7fe5f998f1bbb1f1",
            "alias": "OutaSpace",
            "addresses": [
                {
                    "network": "tcp",
                    "addr": "46.163.78.93:9760"
                },
                {
                    "network": "tcp",
                    "addr": "[2a01:488:66:1000:2ea3:4e5d:0:1]:9760"
                },
                {
                    "network": "tcp",
                    "addr": "2dkobxxunnjatyph.onion:9760"
                },
                {
                    "network": "tcp",
                    "addr":
"nzslu33ecbokyn32teza2peiiiuye43ftom7jvnuhsxdbg3vhw7w3aqd.onion:9760"
                }
            ],
            "color": "#123456"
        },

It would be useful to write a vocab for these and then document what they
mean.  It would then be possible to add markup to an explorer to make it
self documenting.

My first question is : are these terms consistent across different
implementations e.g. c-lightning, eclair ?


>
>
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 7:17 AM Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I work on the solid project [1] and am very interested in the lightning
>> network.
>>
>> In particular, I am looking at trying to create an integration between
>> lightning (layer 2) and solid (layer 3?  web layer?).
>>
>> The first step towards integration would be to port some of the lightning
>> concepts to the semantic web.  This is done by creating an ontology.
>>
>> Does anyone know of any existing work in this area.  Alternatively, does
>> anyone have an interest to collaborate on an ontology?
>>
>> Best
>> Melvin
>>
>> [1] https://solid.mit.edu/
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