[llvmlinux] Builtin: stack pointer

Behan Webster behanw at converseincode.com
Thu Mar 27 14:44:35 UTC 2014

On 03/27/14 03:44, Andrew Pinski wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:25 AM, Renato Golin <renato.golin at linaro.org> wrote:
>> On 27 March 2014 10:12, Andreas Schwab <schwab at suse.de> wrote:
>>> Can't you use __builtin_frame_address (0) instead?
>> That would give me the frame pointer, not the stack pointer, and the
>> user would have to calculate manually the offset to get the actual
>> stack pointer, which would be target-specific, possibly making it even
>> worse. Is that what you meant?
> So if we audit what the kernel uses this method.  There is stack
> tracing code which is highly target dependent.

> And then there is current_thread_info which is also highly target
> dependent code (though it can use __builtin_frame_address(0) there
> since it is doing an alignment of a huge value at that point).
Already tried that. Patches doing exactly this in the ARM code in these 
cases were rejected as generates less efficient code in the situation 
where the kernel is compiled without a frame-pointer. So no, that is not 
acceptable to upstream kernel maintainers.

That is what led to this proposal.

> I don't see why there needs to be an builtin function for this case,
> adding one extra instruction inside an inline-asm for the moving from
> the stack point to a normal register should be good enough.
Because one extra instruction was not acceptable upstream. Patch also 

> Take arch/arm64/include/asm/thread_info.h for an example,
> __builtin_frame_address(0) should be good enough since the sp and fp
> should be on the same page (that is what THREAD_SIZE is about).
Less efficient if compiled without a frame-pointer. Patch was rejected.

>> (so you need to split by arch with ifdefs),
> Except it is already in the kernel anyways; not even by ifdefs but by
> different files so the reasoning adding a new builtin is not useful.
For the existing cases this is true. However such a builtin would allow 
it to be used in common code (as a theoretical example).


Behan Webster
behanw at converseincode.com

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