[lsb-discuss] LSB conf call notes for 2007-11-28

[Jeff Licquia]

Attendees: Jeff, Marvin, Carlos and Jesper from TrollTech, Dan, Robert, 
Sam, Marc Miller, Vladimir, Alexey, Stew, Mats, Till

3.2 status.  Qt 4.  TrollTech is sending symbol lists to fix 
qt-designer; Mats reports that those are integrated and will build 
today.  Qt 4 tests building.  Mats will read the virtual table proposal, 
and possibly integrate it.  Mats: spec with integrated Qt 4 building. 
Question: deprecate Qt 3?  Carlos: on Qt 3, worried about KDE, want Qt 4 
to be default.  Robert: not saying anything about deprecation of Qt 3. 
Marc: std KDE?  Jeff: no, more a message thing.  Also, question: two 
versions of the same library non-deprecated?  Dan: who's pushing back? 
Carlos clarifies; they're not pushing back, just raising a concern. 
Mats: never done before, some issues with keeping both C++.  Jeff: any 
other objections?  From now on, the policy is to deprecate Qt 3 in LSB 3.2.

Printing.  Stew: printing tests are building.  Jeff: Mats has built 
skeleton specs, am pasting the content into the printing skeleton.

ALSA: lots of activity.  Mats: got expert feedback regarding interfaces, 
not sure it's a good idea to use them.  New interfaces proposed aren't 
used by apps.  Jeff: did the experts propose removing APIs?  Mats: some 
13 APIs we have but were not on their list.  Vladimir: ISPRAS identified 
some 400 interfaces; message was for 478 additional interfaces, plus 12 
interfaces not in their lists (they didn't mention any to remove 
explicitly).  Mats: skeleton spec here too, for "multimedia".

Jeff: snapshots of specs now available, in 
http://www.linux-foundation.org/snapshots/.  Mats: will rebuild fairly 
often, when major changes happen.

Release schedule?  Robert: beta in last 2 weeks of the year will gather 
no feedback.  Releasing the beta earlier, but with issues, may be 
better.  Mats: as long as we can keep everything sane, we should be able 
to release the beta and continue to find issues.  Probably better to 
release early with issues, and possibly avoid a late release, than to 
release late and guarantee one, esp. if a delayed beta will be ignored 
anyway.  Jeff: let's plan to release the beta early next week, then.

Robert: if Qt 3 is not marked as deprecated, how will appchk know when 
it finds them?  Mats: it won't.  Robert: bug on appchk to push this out 
past the release?  Mats: sure.  Could hand-hack appchk to switch on 
deprecation when it sees symbols from the Qt 3 libraries.  Jeff: single 
warning for Qt 3?  Robert: good thing, but people will want to know 
specifically what they're using and where.

Vladimir: two issues.  Optional/trial use vs. required decision, per 
Alexey's message on the list?  Jeff: we need a decision, but out of 
time.  Do on the list?  Mats: as long as we don't ignore it.  Jeff: will 
write up a summary and set of decisions, people can object, but 
otherwise will be the plan going forward.

Second issue: publishing the 3.2 tests early?  (Sent email earlier; the 
3.2 tests need publishing so the Managers can be tested.)  Mats: no 
reason we can't.