[lsb-discuss] LSB conf call notes for 2007-10-24
jeff at licquia.org
Wed Oct 24 09:21:25 PDT 2007
Attendees: Jeff, Mats, Sam, Marvin, Darren Davis, Stew, Carlos Duclos
from TrollTech, Alexey and Vladimir from ISPRAS, Robert, George Kraft,
Jesper from TrollTech.
F2F. Jeff has been tweaking, please look over and give feedback,
especially on times.
Qt 4. Summarize the situation: Qt 4.2 is a candidate due to SuSE 10
uplift. Darren: confirmed the uplift, notes that this is not their
normal practice. Make sure our bases are covered, are there *any* other
distros? Robert: Xandros may be a concern. Jeff can't find specifics
for the current version; will check. Memory is that this won't be a
DB changes. Carlos: 9 main features in 4.2 vs. 4.1. Vladimir: need to
do a complete reimport because the current data is insufficient to
generate headers. New tools won't be ready for doing the import in 3.2
time frame. Alterate possibility: modify the Qt 4 data in place, and do
ad-hoc fixes to get it to work. Need the number of interfaces before
this can work. Jesper: can we help? Vladimir: not sure. Jeff: maybe
they can do the work of identifying the exact changes? Carlos: take
offline. Jeff: when can ISPRAS have their estimate? Vladimir: could
have estimate by F2F. Carlos: can get list of interfaces within 2 days.
Jesper: sending email regarding this. Jeff will look and forward as
needed. Coordinate on the list if possible; several people are interested.
Header updates. Jeff: should be easy. Stew: looked into it, shouldn't
be hard, just need a decision on which tarball to pull.
Jeff: our build environment is SLES 10, so we will need a semi-official
Qt update soon. Markus is working on this.
Appbat. Jeff: need an appbat package, possibly poppler or a bittorrent
client. Explained appbat for the TrollTech folks. Carlos: Qt ships Qt
Designer, Linguist, which would be good candidates. Can be built
separately from Qt itself. Will do Qt Designer RPM by Monday, use the
first chapter of the tutorial as the FVT. Stew: build env won't be up
to date. Jeff: let's start with a native RPM and get it building LSB
once the SDK changes are done. Carlos: have built Qt 4 before
LSB-compliant, so should be no major problems. Jesper: which version?
Jeff: up to you, but should work on 4.2.1. Debian has 4.2.1, can
consult the LSB Navigator or ask if Debian won't work for their testing.
Tests. Jesper: some 4.3 tests, can strip those out. Stew: until we get
a 4.2 toolchain, there isn't a lot we can do. Jeff: can we do this
native too until that's fixed? Stew: should work.
Unrelated to Qt 4, IcedTea project from Red Hat may be interesting for
the LSB; it's an effort to add GNU Classpath things to OpenJDK to get it
working. Will be the Java compiler for Fedora 8. Also, Red Hat is
standardizing crypto interfaces on Mozilla libnss; may also be
interesting from a standards point of view if openssl doesn't release a
stable ABI soon.
Jesper: what's the F2F for? Jeff: depends on timing, this F2F is for
release discussion of 3.2 and planning for 4.0. TrollTech is welcome to
talk about their issues for 4.0, do presentations on future of Qt, i18n
in Qt, etc. Contact Jeff, list, or edit talk page on wiki for ideas.
Robert: atexit and Mats's deprecated interfaces. Deprecation is not
controversial, will do. Jeff: atexit() is deep magic, which is why it
looks weird in the spec. Robert: still need to make sure appchk doesn't
complain. Mats: may be some inconsistency in the magic; need to make sure.
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