[lsb-discuss] LSB conf call notes for 2007-09-19

[Jeff Licquia]

Attendees: Stew, Jeff, Sam, George Kraft, Marc Miller, Nick Stoughton, 
Mats, Alexey, Marvin, Darrin Davis, Kay Tate, Dan Kohn, Robert.

F2F: We're set for the first week of November, Wednesday through Friday 
noon.  Robert: issues with end of week were with flights, ending at noon 
should fix that.  Jeff will set up a wiki page and send the announcement 
to the list today.

App data: Kay is still working on it.  Darrin: uploaded the data. 
Alexey: imported into local db copy on linuxtesting.org, will be 
available end of Sep.  Darrin: proprietary apps pretty much done. 
openSuSE build process: thumbs-up from build engineers, need a project 
for the data generation tools.  Alexey: build system open source? 
Darrin: yes, can even build packages for Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora. 
Alexey: LSB as build target?  Darrin: has been discussed, in the futures 
wiki.  Resource issue; will accept such a thing if done.  Alexey: tools 
ready for this?  Darrin: should figure this out.  Jeff: if not ready, 
should be a high priority to fix.  Mats: build_env is what's needed, no 
one is working on it, 3.1 has some bugs.

George: conf call between TrollTech and a11y group on Qt 4 a11y.  We 
should have a LSB representative.  Stew will be on.

Scheduling: Jeff will not be on the call next week.  Robert: let's take 
up the issue at the end, depending on what else we talk about today.

Java.  Darrin: multiple JVMs is a problem at Novell.  Architectures are 
also an issue.  Will be gathering stats on the various JVMs used by the 
various Novell Java apps.  Jeff: LSB-compliant JVMs address the issue? 
Darrin: that's part of the data they will be gathering.  Dan: 
good-enough solution in LSB-compliant JRE?  Darrin: yes, that's the 
idea.  Robert: people will use a LF JRE if it's provided for Linux 
support.  Darrin: will report to the list, including specific JRE 
dependencies.  Will need a broad sampling of JRE uses.  Apache and 
Eclipse people may be good sources of info as well.  Jeff: LSB DB.  Sam: 
Sun is working on a universal installer for their JRE.

ALSA.  Two sides to the issue.  Developers want something, and ALSA is 
something, but audio/kernel types think ALSA is too low-level. 
PulseAudio seems to be emerging as a candidate, but it's too early to 
call yet.  ALSA the #1 missing API in the various Java runtimes. 
Robert: should release using the new trial standard thing ASAP.  Also, 
shipping ALSA enables apps to bundle higher-level APIs with their app. 
May not be practical because of audio server issues, but is at least a 
partial solution.  Deprecation should not be an issue with the ALSA API. 
  Jeff: propose we commit to adding ALSA based on these factors, table 
discussion unless new data comes back.  No dissent.

Next call: Robert: want to talk about the trial spec thing, but should 
be discussed with the full contingent.  Skipping next week's call, then; 
the next LSB call will be on October 3.

Alexey: openGL contacts?  Mats: we had a poster in the past, will look.