[lsb-discuss] LSB conf call notes for 2008-07-30

Dalibor Topic Dalibor.Topic at Sun.COM
Fri Aug 8 09:51:22 PDT 2008

On 08/08/08 16:53, Jeff Licquia wrote:
> Also, I believe there are "Javas" that haven't passed the JCK but
> install into /usr/bin/java; gcj and kaffe come to mind.  I don't know 
> that Sun pursues its trademark into the functional arena.  But perhaps 
> Dalibor knows better.
I am not a lawyer, so my knowledge about trademarks, how Sun treats 
them, etc.
is, to put it mildly, extremely limited.

The existing practice in distributions is to treat /usr/bin/java as a 
symlink that's set
by distributions and/or their users to point to alternative 
i.e. neither kaffe nor gcj install directly into /usr/bin/java (or 
anything else,
for that matter).

The general relevance of kaffe (with my kaffe co-maintainer hat on) as a 
in distributions has rapidly decreased since OpenJDK was released last 
year, and
afaict all major distributors are now either already distributing or 
planning to distribute
OpenJDK as the default runtime.

> My concern is that, if the JCK is too hard to run, not distributed with 
> the rest of the test suite, and not integrated into DTK Manager, then it 
> will simply not be run.  I don't think it's in our best interest to 
> create a "de facto profile" where people claim to be LSB compliant 
> "except for Java" and skip certification
I should add that a portion of the JCK is interactive - an introduction 
to the subject (from the
mobile perspective) is at 

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