[lsb-discuss] LSB conf call notes for 2008-01-30
jeff at licquia.org
Wed Jan 30 09:10:23 PST 2008
Attendees: Jeff, Ted, Mats, Sam, Darrin Davis, Marvin, George Kraft,
Stew, Kay Tate, Carlos Duclos, Robert Schweikert
LSB 3.2 released. Sample implementation still left. Sam: progress is
slow, because of 11-hour build. Issues with gawk not returning an error
code, so the build "succeeds" even though large parts aren't building.
3.2 postmortem. Robert: autobuilding was done, but a few things still
crept in anyway. Ted: tracking bugs wasn't done as well. 1/3 planning,
1/3 implementing, 1/3 debugging. Mats: need to settle questions sooner;
Qt 4 was decided much later than it should have been, ALSA was also
extremely late. Ted: should freeze feature list by end of March,
implement before August, release in November. Jeff: navigator.
Ted: need to identify the apps we care about very soon and get them into
the database, so that we have the data to make that decision for 4.0.
Jeff: sounds like a good task in the short-term. Jeff: novell and
chiphopper? Darrin: plenty have been added. Kay: uploaded a few, will
be ongoing, some 15-20 in the queue right now. Ted: could we set a
deadline of 3 weeks for highest priority? Kay: probably can't,
personnel issues. Should probably prioritize the apps in the queue,
will use 3 weeks as a target date. Even if we can't get it into the
database, we can bring specific API requests. Darrin: about 10 apps
from Novell in the database. Goals: get the info submitted as part of
Novell's autobuild process and the OpenSuSE build process. Priority
issues. Goerge: will have a summer student, make local copies of LSB
database and navigator and will populate it with internal IBM apps, can
report back when that's done.
Robert: decision-making. Didn't finish the Qt 4 discussion when we
started it; have a tendency to do that. Should be more disciplined
about making those decisions.
Jeff: preview releases way early (July, September, etc.)? Ted: good
idea, should time it with conferences to give us something to talk
about. Robert: should be release-ready at any time, preview releases
will help. One concern: how much time will that take away from the
development process? Ted: feature-complete by August 1, could time
preview 1 around that time. Also, need ISV input before then.
Carlos: schedule? Ted: feature list by April, basic implementation by
August, first beta October 3, release candidate November 1. Carlos:
after 4.0? Ted: could do a 4.1. Robert: should time with enterprise
distro releases. Carlos: concern is to figure out where changes need to
be proposed. Ted: need advance information on their plans.
Ted: engage SLES and RHEL release teams more in 4.0 process, get tests
run by upstreams more. Jeff: can do the latter sooner; Ubuntu wants to
run the autotest framework as part of their QA for hardy.
Jeff: immediate tasks: propose Ted's 4.0 schedule, evaluate LSB database
for missing data (esp. apps). Also can start to engage release teams
Robert: Java should be something to decide, possibly in the next month
or so. Ted: has anyone been watching OpenJDK? Kay: get a Java
representative? Ted: someone from Harmony/OpenJDK, maybe IBM JDK team.
Robert: wiki page? Jeff: have one, out of date, should update, linked
from toplevel workgroup page. Sam: private Java results that could be
copied into LsbJava. Ted: two tasks: update LsbJava and engage people
on the upstream Java teams.
Carlos: next F2F? Ted: At same time as LF Collaboration Summit in
April, all-day Friday meeting plus social stuff over that following weekend.
Jeff: important to continue the discussion, follow up to the list for
corrections to the notes, additional issues, etc.
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