[lsb-discuss] LSB conf call notes for 2008-03-12
jeff at licquia.org
Wed Mar 12 12:25:39 PDT 2008
Attendees: Jeff, Sam, Jesper, Ted, Darren Davis, Mats, Dan Kohn, Stew,
Alan Clark, Vladimir, Alexey, George, Marvin.
Google Summer of Code. Jeff: no LSB projects; the LF is doing others.
Ted: could possibly add projects, but if it's low priority, could
possibly not be worth it this year. Jeff: next year may be better,
after a successful LSB 4.
Project management. Jeff has been adding some to the LSB:PM page.
Those working on projects should decide if their project needs a page,
and fill it out if so.
Java. George: could we look at the list of symbols needed? Jeff: two
libraries, plus a few symbols. Some will go away with a proper LSB
build. Mats: libXtst ready to go. George: is there a candidate field
we can set? Ted: can also use comments. Jeff: libthread_db? Mats:
don't know how it's pulled in, probably disappear with a LSB build.
Ted: ditto with ctype stuff. Should probably do more research offline,
report to the list, and discuss. Certain symbols will be controversial;
may need to ask Sun/IBM why they need other things. Mats: one JRE is
pulling in ALSA internal symbols, which they probably need to stop
using. Jeff: Sun guy. George: create a wiki page for ABIs needed?
Jeff: need a project management page. George: point the way and will
JPackage. Skipped on this call.
SI. Jeff: rPath. Ted: are we abandoning the LFS approach? Sam: right
now, can build the 3.1 SI for ia32, some progress on x86_64. Have added
Python and Perl to that; don't pass all the tests. Would actually
advocate moving to rPath if it can be done. Ted: still some work to do
on rPath as well; arch support is a problem. Estimate for work to do on
LFS? Sam: not sure, recreating the build environment is difficult,
shouldn't take longer than a month to get the extra 3.2 stuff added once
the build issues are ironed out. Maybe a few weeks before starting
testing. Jeff: build issues given to someone else? Sam: would help a
lot. Jeff: who? Ted: and what do they think about abandoning LFS?
Mats: could we get some time out of Marvin? Ted: will ask. Mats:
Marvin was most recent wrangler. Adding new pieces shouldn't be a lot
of work. Shouldn't touch the other parts of it. Marvin: need to get
builds working again on all archs. Jeff: how easy would it be to get
some of Marvin's time? Marvin: not likely. Ted: this could degrade our
support for IBM archs, could be a lever to pry loose some time. Marvin:
can find out by next week about getting all archs building. Sam: also,
when building, could we check latest bzr? Marvin: will start with
devel, move back to 3.1 if needed. Jeff: 4.0 status. Ted: also getting
an upgraded Power machine, working with Kay and George on that.
Build environment. Jeff: in same status as SI, because it's based on
it. Ted: does that mean no SDK for 3.2? Jeff: no, SDK based on lsbcc,
which was released for 3.2. The buildenv is an alternative to lsbcc.
ISPRAS test improvements. Vladimir: continuing to develop tests at all
three quality grades. Also improving quality of tools. Most test
resources are working on medium level (t2c). Desktop libraries are
current focus, also libstdc++ medium tests, libX11, gobject recently
finished, also gdk-pixbuf. OpenGL also in progress. For deep tests:
core in progress. Shallow tests for Qt 4, too. These are reflected in
Improve app test tools. Jeff: brought up at ISV meeting. ISVs love ATK
Manager, but want more stuff. In particular, comments on common
problems are important. Ted: would be good to document how to get text
into those fields; will have full-time ISV support person who could add
some of that information as issues come up with ISVs. Vladimir: will
get that documented. Comments currently go in the database; will come
up with a better way to add those.
Jesper: Norway holiday next Wednesday, so Norwegian people won't be on
the call then.
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