[lsb-discuss] LSb Java

Robert Schweikert rschweikert at novell.com
Thu Jun 17 07:36:13 PDT 2010

On 06/17/2010 10:13 AM, Chris Lee wrote:
> Robert Schweikert wrote:
>> Hi,
>> George's query about Java poked me to finally take some time and look at
>> the LSB build of Java in OBS (openSUSE Build Service). As the Java
>> source has move forward and the current project i slinked to the latest
>> Java build the patches created via the GSoC (Google Summer of Code) no
>> longer apply. Not really a big surprise.
>> I took a look at the patches to see if I can figure out a few things
>> here or there to make this work. As I was looking at the patches I
>> realized why the previously discussed comment "patch set is not in shape
>> to be accepted upstream" was made.
>> While the patches has some good improvements it also creates build mode
>> of openJDK to be LSB compliant. New header files are being created, LSB
>> specific definitions, and lsb header file, etc. This does not reflect
>> what I think we should have done and thus I am not really surprised that
>> the patches would not be accepted upstream.
>> The goal of the GSoC project was in my mind to make openJDK LSB
>> compliant and NOT, add a mode in which I can build openJDK in an LSB
>> compliant way. These are quite different goals and the GSoC produced a
>> way in which one can build openJDK in an LSB compliant way. This leaves
>> us with patches we most likely cannot push upstream.
>> The "create a way to build openJDK LSB compliant" way is indicated by
>> various #ifdef uses in the patches and a specific lsb directory. These
>> are not necessary if the build is LSB native rather than a mode.
>> Part of the work applies to making openJDK LSB compliant, but a good
>> chunk of the work falls into the second category (LSB build mode of
>> openJDK).
>> IMHO moving forward in this state makes little sense and we need to
>> figure out a better way to get where we want to be.
>> Robert
> Is it required that LSB requires the provision of a LSB compliant
> JRE/JDK binary?
> Should LSB not just require that a JRE/JDK that conforms to the JAVA
> standard is available and provides a sub set of JAVA command line
> options. As all JAVA software will only be using the JAVA VM and
> libaries, it does not care if the JRE is LSB compliant.
> What use case requires the JRE/JDK provided by a distro to be LSB
> compliant?

Generally yes, if Java is part of the LSB the problem goes away.
However, including Java in the LSB is a problem all onto its own, which
is why we are approaching the beast from two directions. See:


for more details.

> Regards,
> Chris.

Robert Schweikert                           MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU
Software Engineer Consultant                          LINUX
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