[lsb-discuss] Java - there you go

R P Herrold herrold at owlriver.com
Thu Oct 14 19:33:07 PDT 2010

On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Wichmann, Mats D wrote:

> So we remove the Java "trial use" portion now - is that
> your proposal?  Comments?

As I mentioned in this week's call (and perhaps six weeks ago 
when the Google suit was then fresh and the matter was 
discussed in that earlier call), it seems to me it is out of 
4.1 and following, and not to return, pending some ability to 
have a test suite for defining a conforming java 
implementation; and an ability and set of tools to evaluate is 
a given propose Java application is constraining itself to 
using only interfaces contained with a java conformant to taht 
text kit.

I understand that 'people want it'. the customers Kaye has 
surveyed want it, and so forth -- heck, ** I want it **, and 
use a Java, and would prefer it was FOSS and within the LSB -- 
but I would also like a pink pony, and a fine Scotch every 
evening to calm my nerves.  It is not gonna happen soon, or 

As a practical matter, this puts a couple years of delay into 
a java into LSB, but frankly the arguments of two years ago 
for not including it, before it went into 4.0 still apply, and 
sadly have come to reality

The 'trial use' java inclusion has to go at the next point 

-- Russ herrold

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