[lsb-discuss] Unofficial LSB conference call minutes (2012-04-11, 11am ET)
R P Herrold
herrold at owlriver.com
Wed Apr 11 17:12:08 UTC 2012
LSB teleconference
Wednesday, 11 Apr 2012 @11:00 to noon, US ET
Where:
(605) 715-4920 Access Code: 512468
Gobby:
gobby -j lsb-temp.pmman.net:6522 with passwd: LSB
IRC channels are:
#lsb-meeting at freenode.net during meetings
#lsb at freenode.net most other times
prior meetbot minutes:
(none -- Collab Summit)
THIS meeting's meetbot minutes:
no substantive content
http://stewbenedict.org/lsb/irc/meetbot/lsb-meeting/2012/lsb-meeting.2012-04-11-15.01.html
Attendees:
in the form : name (organization) [irc_nick]
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Jeff Licquia (LF) licquia
Russ Herrold (Owl River) orc_emac
Glen Petrie (Epson)
Robert Schweikert (SuSE) robjo
Mats Wichmann (Intel) mwichmann via Gobby
potentials:
Stew Benedict (LF) stewb
Alan Clark (SuSE) AlanClark
Darren Davis (SuSE)
Jiri Dluhos (SUSE) jdluhos
Kay Tate (SuSE) ktate
Alexey Khoroshilov (ISP RAS) Alexey
Apologies:
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Denis Silakov (ROSA Labs) denis_silakov
Posted Agenda: -or -
Posted Agenda (modified):
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- Recap of the Collab Summit: results of LSB meeting, other
activities.
- Next steps: where do we go from here? LSB 5.0, other
updates.
New business:
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Meeting opens at 11:00 with:
Introductory remarks about the Collab Summit last week; more
aggressive about rolling out updates in the 4 series; initial
plan for 5 seems in place
A Thursday Collab Summit talk covered a 'relaunch' of glibc
and its consuming community and the eglibc fork (Debian /
Ubuntu bolting caught the mainline glibc's attention). Prior
examples include emacs, gcc, ...
So Jeff approached Carlos O'Donnell (functional 'lead log' on
the re-launched glibc effort)[1] [2]; encouraging noises were
made, but we will see if this bears fruit going forward.
glibc is interested in expanding test coverage, and so there
seems to be a good fit to LSB's present practice
Takeaway: at least for the present, it may well be possible to
get some long-standing LSB desired interfaces addressed, and a
re-examination of previously rejected matters may not be
attainable
LSB navigator seems to have XSS holes; there is a bug filed
[3], but as a result the navigator is offline atm. A Spanish
language demonstration Proof of Concept screenshot was
provided, but in out of band contact, Jeff noted that the
reporter of the bug was not interested in providing the
exploit scanner for testing. The web team are pretty sure
that other holes exist however and an audit is in process
This brings up a need to do an audit / re-examination of the
Navigator code, esp as to getting sanitization code run
earlier rather than the current model of passing a user
provided input around 'un-escaped' until use
Administrative interface may also need audit and attention.
It is not used much, and so is not heavily tested; adding
better ACLs comes to mind as well. The admin interface is not
customarily left enabled and when it is, it has been used
'locally'
Jeff is 'on point' on that audit
On to substantive matters, Jeff and Robert discuss task
decomposition process
Robert will scope out dbus, and test modularization
Glen will touch the SANE related matter
There is an old email thread estimating work on library
uplifts from Denis last year to consulted as well, with some
numbers; checking my archive I do not readily find it
Jeff will use some automation to emit 'order of magnitude'
number of tasks over the next week; this may be overly
ambitious ... we will see; Robert particularly expects that
the Gtk changes will be profuse ... as a hypothetical, finding
that 30k possible interfaces would not be useful, and suggests
that choosing one task at a time may be more productive
IBM has responded as to Power system access, so contact has
been made, and is advancing
Call ends at local Noon
Weekly Bug triage:
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irc-only #lsb-meeting at freenode.net
Thurs at 10:00 Eastern
Bugzilla stats as of 11 Apr 2012: 496 open (491 assigned, 3
new, 1 needinfo). 496 open last week.
New last 90 days: 164, last 30: 35; closed last 90: 104, last
30: 48
Changed this week: 7, last week: 13.
Bugs that are assigned but have no milestone: 273
Rollup bugs: 23
No-milestone bugs will be the focus of the next few meetings
there was no meeting last week
Reviewboard:
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http://reviews.lsbtest.net/dashboard/
Next meeting:
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18 Apr 2012 11:00 to noon, US ET
gobby unofficial minutes are open for edit for at least 15 min
after each call, and then issued into the mailing list
[1] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lib.glibc.alpha/19121
[2] https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/collaboration-summit/odonell
Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit 2012 | Presentations
The Future of the GNU C Library
The GNU C Library (GLIBC) is a part of almost all Linux
systems deployed today. Along with GCC the library is part of
the framework that implements the userspace requirements for
several standards including ISO C and POSIX. While standards
conformance provides a stable base upon which many users can
design, test, and implement quality software, the
responsibilities of the library do not end there. Given the
complexity of Linux-based solutions GLIBC is unique positioned
to provide: userspace thread profiling information, optimized
function selection based on local cpu type, size and feature
customizability based on POSIX profiles. This talk examines
the current state of the GLIBC community and the steps being
taken to make this core component relevant to more users and
the problems they seek to solve using Linux.
Carlos O'Donell, Mentor Graphics
Carlos O'Donell works for Mentor Graphics in the Embedded
Systems Division where he works on Sourcery CodeBench a full
C/C++ development environment built on top of open-source
components. Carlos is an active GLIBC maintainer and has been
working on the project for over 10+ years since he started as
the HPPA ports maintainer. Just last year Carlos started
representing Canada as part of ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 with
particular interest in WG14/C, POSIX and LSB.
[3] https://lsbbugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3487
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