[lsb-discuss] unofficial LSB conference call minutes for 17 Jul 2013

[R P Herrold]

LSB teleconference

Wednesday, 17 Jul 2013 @11:00 to noon, US ET

Where:	(605) 715-4920 Access Code: 512468

Gobby:	gobby -j lsb-temp.pmman.net:6522 with passwd: LSB

IRC channels are:
 	#lsb-meeting at freenode.net during meetings
 	#lsb at freenode.net most other times

Attendees:
in the form : name (organization)  [irc_nick]
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Jeff Licquia (LF)  licquia
Glen Petrie (Epson)
Robert Schweikert (SuSE)  robjo
Mats Wichmann (LSB)  mwichmann
Russ Herrold (Owl River)  orc_emac


Posted Agenda:
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  - Quick status re: Marist conversation.
  - C++ work.
  - Idea re: systemd portion.


New business:
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Meeting opens at 11:00 with:

Marist -- conf call held ... access to the machine is in 
process, but obviously not the highest item on the 'To Do' 
list

C++ --- the trade-off is database work and exceptions and 
uncovering rocks that point out problems, vs. getting a 
validator/parser of Virtual Member structures.  The workload 
of writing 'yet another' such parser is clearly material, and 
replicates prior work.  It may be possible graft in an 
existing parser with a usable API.  If it is a blocker to 
getting the LSB 5 candidates to sufficient maturity to 
release, the choice on the trade-off of doing manual database 
exceptions, and deferring parser work is perhaps obvious

systemd -- Debian has a flame-war going on systemd vs older 
init script approaches -- none, init, bsd, SysV -- and the 
complaints of its maintainers about not wanting to add 'yet 
another'.  The remaining desktop oriented Linux distributions 
(save Ubuntu) have pretty well locked to a migration to 
systemd, and the implied obsolescence of the LSB initscript 
header conventions

Jeff wonders if we have anything to offer, perhaps by way of 
extending the meta-information which initscript headers offer. 
Others in the call point out that the work to do such is not a 
'free choice' and for a community which is not stepping up to 
offer to perform the engineering work, and to get the 
political consensus over on the systemd side, to support such 
vestigial matter

Call ends at local 11:50


Weekly Bug triage:
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The bug tracker is at: https://bugs.linuxbase.org/
irc-only #lsb-meeting at freenode.net
Thurs at 10:00 Eastern
Bugzilla stats as of 17 Jul: 544 open, 538 assigned, 6 new
New last 90 days: 46, last 30: 23; closed last 90: 36, last
 	30: 9
Changed this week: 8, last week: 14
Bugs that are assigned but have no milestone: 211, Rollup
 	bugs: 20


Buildbot and Reviewboard:
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http://www.linuxbase.org/buildbot/
http://reviews.lsbtest.net/dashboard/

Next meeting:
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24 Jul 2013 11:00 to noon, US ET

gobby unofficial minutes are open for edit for at least 15 min 
after each call, and then issued into the mailing list

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This document: LSB_minutes_20130717.txt