[lsb-discuss] Don't blame LSB and standards, please: was: Re: Fedora Plasma Product, feedback please

Tue Apr 1 15:20:53 UTC 2014

On 04/01/2014 02:04 PM, Hohndel, Dirk wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-04-01 at 08:03 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>> If I'm going to be jumping on standardization bandwagon I will need to
>> know how open LSB and linux foundation in general is to start coming
>> up with a standardization model where each of the linux standards out
>> there complement each other as opposed to compete against each other
>> so we dont wind up with scenarios like this [¹].
> Oh, I get it. Before you help us we need to prove to you that we are
> open and we do so by doing what you tell us needs to be done.

You told me to participate and I told you what I thought was a great 
idea so we would not windup in a standard mess.

>
> Makes perfect sense. Those of us who have done this for the past 16
> years clearly need to show you that we are serious about this. I get it.
>
>> Starting with adjusting the LSB specification to make it GENIVI®
>> compliant so when you become LSB X.0 Certified you are also GENIVI
>> compliant.
> So the overarching standard needs to change so that it complies with
> something that a bunch of car makers decided would work for them (in the
> past year and a half). Again, completely reasonable.

I would think that a clear well written standard could be applied to 
embedded/cloud/containers/servers/desktop but apparently I was wrong.

>
>> The reason for this is obvious the traditional desktop/server
>> distribution model as we come to know it through out the year are
>> seizing to exist so distributions will either adapt to the emerging
>> "smart" phone/tablet generation or risk becoming extinct in the
>> process.
> Again, totally agree with you. Google and Facebook are already
> transitioning their data centers to run on Android, as we all know.

The backend data centers will continue to run linux distribution as a 
server or cloud images dont be silly but it's not unlikely that you will 
see GNU/Linux desktop fade away and tablet form factor running single 
purposed servers emerging in the future.

Here in Iceland schools are being populated with tables and normal end 
users have started to moving away from using laptops/desktop altogether 
to using tablets and smart phones since they provide them with what ever 
they need ( which just boils down to a camera,browser, email client 
facebook, instagram and braindead games ).

Even administrators are looking into if they can replace their laptops 
now since a somewhat usable docking station has emerged [¹] ( has 3 usb 
ports keyboard/mouse/external drive/hdmi port ) and google play provides 
them with all the application they required to achieve that.

Below is the list floating around for testing in admin forums with most 
of the complaints being lack of dual monitor support,  screen rotation 
issues as well as them being stuck with mirroring as in not having with 
primary,secondary display.

Remote Desktop Connection [2]
AWS Console [3]
Rackspace Cloud [4]
Openstack [5]
VMware [6]
Qemu [7]
SSH [8]
Monitoring [9]
Wardriving scanner/Netmonitor [10]
Ping [11]
VPN [12]
Wireshark [13]
Bluetooth Terminal [14[15

Even university's dont spew out code these day's without app being 
attached to it but by all means ignore changes and the market and laugh 
all you want and design the LSB standard to exclude 
embedded/mobile/tablet in any shape or form and continue live in your 
alternative reality.

JBG

1. 
http://in.mobilefun.com/36945-samsung-galaxy-s4-s3-note-2-3-smart-dock---edd-s20eweg.htm
2. 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ericom.accesstogobyericom
3. 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amazon.aws.console.mobile
4. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rackspace.cloudmobile
5. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.n3infinity.stack_mobile
6. 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.projecteureka.android.aVMControl
7. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iiordanov.aSPICE
8. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonelli.juicessh
9. 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.networksaremadeofstring.rhybudd
10. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.carknue.gmon2
11. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.overlook.android.fing
12. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.openvpn.openvpn
13. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=lv.n3o.shark
14. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sena.bterm
15. 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bluetooth-to-RS232-Adapter-Bluetooth-Serial-BT232-Adaptor-Class1-100m-INT-UK-/221325572385?pt=UK_Computing_Other_Computing_Networking&hash=item3388083921