[lsb-discuss] unofficial LSB conference call minutes for 2 Apr 2014

R P Herrold herrold at owlriver.com
Wed Apr 2 18:48:58 UTC 2014

LSB teleconference

Wednesday, 2 Apr 2014 @11:00 to noon, US ET 

Where:	(605) 715-4920 Access Code: 512468

Gobby:	gobby -j lsb-temp.pmman.net:6522 with passwd: LSB

IRC channels are:
	#lsb-meeting at freenode.net during meetings
	#lsb at freenode.net most other times

in the form : name (organization)  [irc_nick]
Jeff Licquia (LF)  licquia
Russ Herrold (Owl River)  orc_emac
Rick Troth (Velocity Software) rickt
Kay Tate (LSB)  ktate
Robert Schweikert (SuSE)  robjo
Mats Wichmann (LSB)  mwichmann

Posted Agenda:

 - LSB 5.0 beta status.

 - Collab Summit recap: "LSB Reloaded"

 - What's going on with "future LSB" preparations

New business:

Meeting opens at 11:00 with:

LSB 5 -- gtk continues, but a problem with supplementation of 
incomplete types / structs .  Strategy is to use a 'one off' 
script to push in placeholders 

Jeff has some bugs to file on the beta 2 on test failures

Collab recap:  posted agenda in the wiki did not survive 
contact with in person reality.  Re-focussing the LSB to 
currently relevant goals (see also the mailing list threads 
this week: 
    Don't blame LSB and standards, please ... 
       - and -
    In the "new" world 
and over into the following month

... (Russ misses some of the call 11:20 to 11:28 ...)  Recap 
of the Collab summit and then a presentation by Robert on the 
(hopefully) lightweight addition of github access for more 
agile as well as 'lower bar to starting' participation in the 

The thought on the new Github presence is to get to a 
lightweight venue for tactical coding to see if a proposed 
addition or refactoring has sufficient commonality between 
distributions to be considered a 'general' need.  Hopefully 
this will prove to be as simple as: Filing a problem statement 
at the Github issue tracker, and putting up some 'running 
code' ["Running code talks"; anyone can point out possible 
things to do, but code speaks].  Russ points out that we end 
up with a new issue tracker to monitor and to 'promote' into 
the bugzilla, for changes that 'make the cut', to ensure 
discussion is not lost

Rick mentions he is working with Marist for buildbot 
instances.  This would help add horsepower to the process, and 
so speed up the turn on getting commits tested on s390 / s390x 
on 'real iron'

Call ends at local 11:40

Weekly Bug triage:
The bug tracker is at: 
(A former bug tracker was used, but is not longer active at:
for people doing research.  Please do not use it for new 

Bug triage occurs weekly: irc-only #lsb-meeting at 
*** FRIDAY* ** at 10:00 Eastern

Bugzilla (lsbbugs) stats as of 02 APr 2014:
604 open, 599 open last report 
596 assigned, 5 new, 3 pleasetest
New last 90 days: 60, last 30: 20; closed last 90: 44, last 
30: 5
Changed this week: 5, last week: 2
Bugs that are assigned but have no milestone: 236
Rollup bugs: 25

Bug (bugs) stats:
65 open FHS, 38 assigned, 27 new
prior bug triage minutes:
Minutes (text): 

How to get involved:

Editor's note: customarily this next full stanza appears only 
in the lst set of minutes each month, but the addition of 
github, and the Collab meeting make it useful to post today
 - join and participate in the mailing list
 - 'star', 'watch' and join with merge proposals our Github 
presence (free)
 - register for a bugzilla account (free)
 - watch, review, test and comment on the commits crossing the 
RO mailing list: 
 - join and lurk in the IRC channels
 - dial into the weekly call and participate
 - join in the edit of the weekly minutes in the gobby
   Free gobby clients available at: 
 - join bug triage and resolution
 - file and fix bugs
 - document matter in the wiki
   (requires LF web account to edit, free)
 - set up and run a puppet build master and build slave 
continuous integration tester
 - Read about editting the specification

Next meeting:
 9 Apr 2014 11:00 to noon, US ET  

gobby unofficial minutes are open for edit for at least 15 min 
after each call, and then issued into the mailing list

This document: LSB_minutes_20140402.txt 

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