From mats.d.wichmann at intel.com Wed Aug 10 06:52:39 2005 From: mats.d.wichmann at intel.com (Wichmann, Mats D) Date: Thu Jul 12 13:07:54 2007 Subject: [Lsb-sc] LSB Chair election Message-ID: Dear Steering Committee members: As some of you already know, at the just completed plenary meeting of the LSB, I announced that I will be giving up the chairmanship of the LSB effective when we have a new chair elected and ready to be seated. The two main reasons are: - it's not clear that I will have time to carry out the chair duties beginning 2006, which would be the beginning of the next term. Things are still a bit in flux, but the likeliest scenario is that I will be spending most of my time on non-LSB projects by that time. - having done one major pull at the oars, it seems like it's good to let someone else have a go, especially so it doesn't come to look like the ISB (Intel Standard Base). We didn't plan it this way, trying to put in what was needed, but it's like the old scenario when everybody else steps back those who forget to do so are out in front, and we have too large a percentage of the current workgroup contributors. A subtle irony is that I worked pretty hard to get that extra group of Intel contributors to come on board so we could keep things moving forward. Since we're at the end of one release cycle now and at the beginning of the next, I wanted to make the switch earlier than January, to insure the new chair had a chance to feel ownership for the LSB 4.0 process and so we can effect a more orderly transition while I know I'll still be around to help with it. This means: the SC has to seat an Election Committee to conduct the process. The EC is an ad-hoc (disbanded when its work is done) committee, which may have SC members, but does not need to be all, or even any SC members. It shall be 2-6 members. EC participants do have to be active LSB contributors as defined by the charter, as do the voters. It will be my task to produce the list of voting members, I think. The EC must present a slate (one or more, that is) of candidates to the SC at least 30 days in advance of the election. EC members may not be candidates for the chair position. Since this is not a regularly scheduled election, the SC will also need to set the date of the election. The election itself is to be conducted electronically, and last no less than seven days. The results are to be presented to the SC for ratification, and apparently the winner also needs to be approved by the FSG board of directors. For personal reasons, it would be my preference not to have drive this process although as a non-candidate I'm eligible to do so, so I'd appreciate a volunteer to get the ball rolling on the part of this that belongs to the SC: selecting the EC. Whom shall we select for the election committee? When shall we schedule the election (i.e., what deadline do we set for the EC to present candidates)? Regards, Mats From mats.d.wichmann at intel.com Sun Aug 14 16:01:08 2005 From: mats.d.wichmann at intel.com (Wichmann, Mats D) Date: Thu Jul 12 13:07:54 2007 Subject: [Lsb-sc] Election committee Message-ID: Seems like Nick Stoughton, and possibly Stuart Anderson, are willing to serve on the election committee. Anybody else? Should we seek others? The charter requires 2-6 members (no idea where those numbers came from :-) Arthur Tyde has expressed his desire to run for chair. Mats From mats.d.wichmann at intel.com Wed Aug 17 05:44:09 2005 From: mats.d.wichmann at intel.com (Wichmann, Mats D) Date: Thu Jul 12 13:07:54 2007 Subject: [Lsb-sc] Election again Message-ID: So are Nick, Stuart, Marvin the Election Committee? Should we seek non-SC participants? Now that my piece of this is announced, it would be nice to get the process rolling, and then wrapped up. From mats.d.wichmann at intel.com Mon Aug 22 08:52:56 2005 From: mats.d.wichmann at intel.com (Wichmann, Mats D) Date: Thu Jul 12 13:07:54 2007 Subject: [Lsb-sc] Election.... Message-ID: How can we proceed on this process? I'm getting frustrated with the silence every time I ask about this - it is an SC job to make sure the election gets handled. From rajesh.banginwar at intel.com Mon Aug 22 09:28:06 2005 From: rajesh.banginwar at intel.com (Banginwar, Rajesh) Date: Thu Jul 12 13:07:54 2007 Subject: [Lsb-sc] Election.... Message-ID: May be it will help if we outline a list of all items that we need to do before new chair is elected. If someone who is familiar with this process document this in chronological order, it will help us track the process. Thanks, -Rajesh > -----Original Message----- > From: lsb-sc-bounces@base3.freestandards.org [mailto:lsb-sc- > bounces@base3.freestandards.org] On Behalf Of Wichmann, Mats D > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 8:53 AM > To: lsb-sc@freestandards.org > Subject: [Lsb-sc] Election.... > > > How can we proceed on this process? I'm getting > frustrated with the silence every time I ask > about this - it is an SC job to make sure the > election gets handled. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Lsb-sc mailing list > Lsb-sc@mail.freestandards.org > http://mail.freestandards.org/mailman/listinfo/lsb-sc From mats.d.wichmann at intel.com Mon Aug 22 10:42:25 2005 From: mats.d.wichmann at intel.com (Wichmann, Mats D) Date: Thu Jul 12 13:07:54 2007 Subject: [Lsb-sc] Election.... Message-ID: >May be it will help if we outline a list of all items that we >need to do before new chair is elected. If someone who is >familiar with this process document this in chronological >order, it will help us track the process. The SC's duties are to: (a) select the election committee, which does not have to be all SC members] (b) ratify the slate presented by the ED (c) certify the results of the election (d) there's been a claim that the chair-elect also has to be presented to the FSG BOD for approval, I actually don't know whether that's codified anywhere or not The election committee's duties are to: (a) select one or more candidates (b) submit to SC for approval (c) determine list of eligible voters (d) set date for election (e) announce the slate 30 days prior to the election (f) make sure there's an election website set up (g) announce the election (and nag) (h) tabulate the results and present to SC for certification I think I've said these already. Sorry, Nick, I didn't realize you guys had taken the ball and were running with it. It was so quiet... From nick at msbit.com Mon Aug 22 09:30:53 2005 From: nick at msbit.com (Nick Stoughton) Date: Thu Jul 12 13:07:54 2007 Subject: [Lsb-sc] Election.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1124728252.3393.385.camel@collie> There are three of us who have spoken up as willing to serve on an election committee, Stuart, Marvin, and me. We have been meeting electronically on this for the last three or four days. We are drawing up a list of contributors under the charter ... see the "meritocracy" chart at http://www.linuxbase.org/policy/charter.html. This list contains both eligible votes and potential candidates. Once this list is complete, we will be ready for the next step! Mats, your term as chair lasts till the end of the year, as I understood it. Please be patient as we figure out how to go from here! You'll hear soon! -- Nick On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 08:52, Wichmann, Mats D wrote: > How can we proceed on this process? I'm getting > frustrated with the silence every time I ask > about this - it is an SC job to make sure the > election gets handled. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Lsb-sc mailing list > Lsb-sc@mail.freestandards.org > http://mail.freestandards.org/mailman/listinfo/lsb-sc From nick at usenix.org Mon Aug 22 11:28:49 2005 From: nick at usenix.org (Nick Stoughton) Date: Thu Jul 12 13:07:54 2007 Subject: [Lsb-sc] Election.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1124735329.3393.559.camel@collie> > (d) there's been a claim that the chair-elect also has > to be presented to the FSG BOD for approval, I actually > don't know whether that's codified anywhere or not According to the charter "The chair is elected by the LSB contributors of the LSB workgroup. The chair's term of office is two years; there is no limit on the number of terms. The chair may be removed through a majority vote of no confidence by either the Steering Committee or the Free Standards Group board of directors." This states, as I read it, that the Board can remove a chair, but are not required to approve one. The FSG bylaws do not require such approval. The FSG board is permitted to establish Policies and Procedures to supplement the bylaws in certain areas; these are not published on the FSG website (nor as far as I can find in the WayBackMachine, were they ever), so I do not believe such a supplement exists, though we should ask the Board. -- Nick Stoughton USENIX/FSG Standards Liaison nick@usenix.org (510) 388 1413