[packaging] Fwd: Useing distro package managers. Was: Re: Meeting next week to discuss trusted third-party repositories

Jeff Johnson n3npq at mac.com
Sun Dec 21 12:17:07 PST 2008


What gives you the right to publish private e-mail without permission?

The lunatic here is you. I recuse myself.

73 de Jeff

On Dec 21, 2008, at 3:08 PM, Dan Kegel wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Jeff Johnson <n3npq at mac.com> wrote:
>> You leave out details.
>
> Sorry, I didn't mean to.  I'll attach the complete posts to provide
> the missing details.
>
>> No matter what: Never talk to me privately ever again.
>
> OK.  Should I remove your address from the 'To:' line when replying to
> a message on a mailing list, too?
> - Dan
>
> From: Dan Kegel <dank06 at kegel.com>
> Date: Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 8:16 AM
> To: Jeff Johnson <n3npq at mac.com>
>
>
> If we're in agreement, it must be the violent sort,
> you keep making me want to throttle you.
>
> I'll go find a bandaid...
>
> ----------
> From: Jeff Johnson <n3npq at mac.com>
> Date: Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 8:27 AM
> To: Dan Kegel <dank06 at kegel.com>
>
>
> We're not in agreement if you don't think we agree.
>
> (aside) I have already been threatened many times with
> personal violence but linux bigots. Somehow I did not sign
> up for personal threats when I started working on RPM.
>
> I take all threats or violence against my personal body parts
> non-metaphorically.
>
> You plain and simply have no right to threaten me personally no matter
> what authority
> you think your linux credentials give you. I'll Fed-Ex a band-aid if  
> that helps.
>
> The topic is "LSB package management",  not otherwise.
>
> 73 de Jeff
>
> ----------
> From: Dan Kegel <dank06 at kegel.com>
> Date: Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 9:34 AM
> To: Jeff Johnson <n3npq at mac.com>
>
>
> I think we're ok on technical stuff.  Where we differ is
> that you seem to think my effort to make things easier for
> users is misguided.
>
> But I'll just put a mental killfile on any confused remarks
> from you, and pay attention only on the germane technical
> issues you bring up.  If you do likewise, we'll get along fine.
> - Dan
>
> ----------
> From: Jeff Johnson <n3npq at mac.com>
> Date: Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 9:42 AM
> To: Dan Kegel <dank06 at kegel.com>
>
>
> You have no idea what I "think" except what I choose to
> express publically. Don't fool yerself.
>
> By all means, point me at any public text that leads to your confusion
> that your efforts is misguided, and I will be happy to clarify my  
> "public"
> comment. Noted, no apology for your private "throttle" threat. I
> really could not
> care less whether we get along or not.
>
> The topic is "LSB Package Management". Take the rest of this thread
> public please.
>
> 73 de Jeff
>
> ----------
> From: Dan Kegel <dank06 at kegel.com>
> Date: Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 9:57 AM
> To: Jeff Johnson <n3npq at mac.com>
>
>
> I apologize.  I didn't intend to threaten you!  I was just trying to
> describe my cranky state.
> Getting along better helps get the technical issues resolved faster,  
> fwiw.
> - Dan
>
> ----------
> From: Jeff Johnson <n3npq at mac.com>
> Date: Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 10:09 AM
> To: Dan Kegel <dank06 at kegel.com>
>
>
> Thank you. When it comes to LSB packaging, there is no "faster", and
> "resolution" means "consensus" which (imho) is never going
> to happen because vendors (and distros) will never agree until forced.
>
> FWIW, I've been privately involved with "LSB packaging"
> since inception. Of course there are many who wish to
> "throttle" my involvement in the discussion instead of solving
> the engineering issues.
>
> I shall not bore you with the details ...
>
> I am solely interested in properly engineered implementations. The  
> SuSE
> solution is quite promising if other details can be worked through.
>
> Again, public discussion only please, I'm tired of endless pointless
> meandering personal private feel-good <-> feel-bad traffic in my
> mbox.
>
> I want to see a properly engineered solution for "LSB packaging".
>
> 73 de Jeff

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