[Printing-architecture] Concept for PPD-less CUPS-spooled printing on Bonjour-discovered network printers

Michael Sweet msweet at apple.com
Wed Nov 13 15:09:20 UTC 2013


On Nov 12, 2013, at 5:23 PM, Till Kamppeter <till.kamppeter at gmail.com> wrote:
> ...
> AFAIR The cupsEnumDests() function is not passing on all needed
> information, especially not the TXT record which contains important info
> like the printer's PDLs.

Keep in mind that the TXT record often only provides a subset of the supported values; once you actually decide to use a printer you need to query the document-format-supported attribute, which you can already do with the new APIs.

> It also lists only local and remote CUPS queues
> and not my IPP network printers (is it restricted to input formats, like
> PDF? Or IPP Everywhere/PWG Raster?). For only doing the original task of
> cups-browsed, creating local queues pointing to remote CUPS queues to be
> able to easily print on these remote printers from the current
> applications cupsEnumDests() would even work.

Currently we require printers to support PDF to support direct printing.  The next feature release of CUPS will be adding support for “temporary” print queues, at which point I will “throw the switch” to allow PWG Raster printers to be shown as well.  Printing to such a queue will cause a local (temporary) print queue to be created and used to print to the corresponding printer.

> Another question is whether cupsEnumDests() can run in parallel with
> other, independent services, in my case Tim Waugh's backward
> compatibility CUPS browsing/broadcasting.

There is no reason it can’t, the main thing you’ll need to do is suppress duplicates.

>> Also, I have my concerns of this approach - with cupsd not knowing anything about the printer, and with there being no way for a non-aware app to know what the printer's capabilities are, I foresee a lot of interoperability issues.
> The problem of this kind of queues is really that if an application is
> not aware of them, it prints (if the app sends PDF it actually prints,
> as the correct filter chain is called) on them but with unsatisfying
> results do to not knowing enough of the printer.
> They work only to their full extent if the app is aware of them and
> polls the capabilities record of the printer via IPP. And this record
> cannot be polled by cups-browsed already as then entering the network
> with a mobile device can wake up all printers from power saving mode,
> some models even getting noisy then.

Thus my point about not adding the printer queue until you actually need to use it. Browse to discover, add a local queue as needed to print to it (at which time it is OK to wake the printer up with a direct query…)

Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair

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